what's the most critically acclaimed band...

[user_189]

this thread = "hey look at me, i'm so DIFFERENT i've never even heard Radiohead!"

:vomit:

learn to read.

i read quite well thanks.

[diederich]

Perhaps you should prove it then by reading the entire thread before posting something as out of place and asinine as your original post.

[user_145]

Intentionally ignoring music is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

I'm boycotting this shit.

[jon abbey]

and yet again:

there's more out there than anyone can ever listen to, and nothing I've read about Radiohead has ever made me think I'd care. no one can hear everything. maybe I phrased it wrong, it's not like Radiohead almost ever crosses my mind, and if my friend were to hand me a CD of theirs and say "this is amazing, I really think you'd enjoy it", I would give it a shot. but this hasn't happened, and I doubt it ever will (unless it does specifically from this post).

enjoy your boycott.

[grisha]

i do ignore some stuff intentionally. needless to say, anything that either racist or nazi is avoided. muslimgauze. and lamonte young. when he gets his ass off those dream syndicate tapes, i might change my mind. that's it. other than that, i'm happy to hear anything new. there is no feeling like hearing something new and truly exciting.

and i like radiohead.

[dialecticbricks]

Intentionally ignoring music is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

I'm boycotting this shit.

So you're saying when you're in an elevator and muzak is blaring you wouldn't ignore it. Or when the Backstreet Boys or what the band-to-hate dijour of the moment is, comes on the radio you don't change the station? Quite simply there is an enormous amount of music out there. More than ever in fact. And I would think it's quite impossible to not ignore some of it- unless one is to spend every waking hour taking everything in, even then the task would be impossible.
Maybe I find myself in agreement with Jon because we're both roughly the same age (I'm 37) and at a certain point you realize that everything that's "cool" and attractive to those younger is just not going to always appeal to yourself. I've never willingly played a Radiohead album. But I have been exposed to some of their music through friends. Does nothing for me. I won't spend the time making a snide riposte as to why I think their music is unappealing and at times derivative. Different strokes for different folks.
My father for example only listens to pre-80's country music. He enjoys it. He's 64 years old and knows at this stage in his life what appeals to him. More power to him. Like the lyric to the old The Band song, "take what you need and leave the rest."

db

[grisha]

very good post, db. seriously. cuz this thread threatens to turn into place where folks just gettin angry for no particular reason. although i think when you say ignoring, many people think about 'not listening at all on purpose'. if you hear something on radio and you don't like it, and you change station, is it ignoring? i think it's choosing. smart thing to do, too.

[user_189]

Perhaps you should prove it then by reading the entire thread before posting something as out of place and asinine as your original post.

i have read the entire thread, thanks.
my post was neither asinine nor out of place.

but since you dudes are so ready to be argumentative, let me ask:

what exactly IS the purpose of this thread, if not to pat yourself on the back by proving what largely accepted/critically acclaimed music you're "too different" to enjoy/give a chance?

[grisha]

should not liking largely accepted/critically acclaimed music make someone feel different? i think if you are on this board, it's good to know people's tastes, not only what they like, but what they don't like too. discussing iglesias jr or britney would be pointless. aybe the name of the thread wasn't too good. how about "which bands that you generally consider to be good do nothing for you"? or something.

[sevenarts]

but since you dudes are so ready to be argumentative, let me ask:

what exactly IS the purpose of this thread, if not to pat yourself on the back by proving what largely accepted/critically acclaimed music you're "too different" to enjoy/give a chance?

argumentative? like your original post "vomiting" at the idea of our posts?

the point of the thread seems to be to post bands that are popularly accepted that, for whatever reason, don't appeal to you. so post why you *do* like these bands (which many people have been doing, and has stimulated some nice conversation) or post what critically acclaimed bands you don't like (or do you like everything that the critics, whoever they are, like?).

[dialecticbricks]

mnemonists, I hear you, I respect your right to feel that way, but I don't really understand that position.

a message board like this consists of a wide variety of people (hopefully), each with their own sets of likes and dislikes. in order to know how closely your taste relates to someone else and how much you can trust their recommendations, it's interesting (for me) to hear what people don't care about as well as what they love. not everybody loves all of the same things, and they shouldn't, it would be a dull world if they did. if dismissals of artists you love really matter to you so much, maybe you need to examine your own feelings about those artists.

if someone posts that they get nothing out of the rolling stones or bob dylan or the stooges, all artists I personally have gotten so much out of, that I kind of laugh to myself, think "their loss", and don't give it another thought. if someone posted the same thing about can or funkadelic or even keith rowe (an artist I feel so strongly about that I've devoted my professional life to building a label around him and his legacy), that's cool, different strokes.

if I really felt strongly about someone being slammed unfairly, either I'd post a specific answer to that, or start an entire new thread to discuss that artist more in depth, like the beatles one that just started.

the point of the thread to begin with wasn't bands you love something by but hate the rest, or bands you used to love but now hate, but bands you never connected with at all. to me, that's a very valid and interesting topic.

rentboy, I think this explains the genesis of this particular thread. I don't think by and large most involved in this thread are being argumentative rather debating the relative merits and whom does appeal and doesn't appeal to them. As with any forum it can and likely will devolve into this sucks, not it doesn't suck, you're crazy if you think it sucks sort of banter. But I don't think the thread was started with that intention although I can only speak for myself. I've learned that discussing music with the musically obsessed can at times be as fruitless as discussing religion or politics with a stranger. It can bring out the best and worst of people. Such is life though.

db

[user_29]

I'm going to de-intellectualize this argument a bit and say that there's nothing wrong with intentionally ignoring some music. There may be something wrong with the reasons an individual does such, but that's the choice of the individual.

[user_178]

mnemonists, I hear you, I respect your right to feel that way, but I don't really understand that position.

a message board like this consists of a wide variety of people (hopefully), each with their own sets of likes and dislikes. in order to know how closely your taste relates to someone else and how much you can trust their recommendations, it's interesting (for me) to hear what people don't care about as well as what they love. not everybody loves all of the same things, and they shouldn't, it would be a dull world if they did. if dismissals of artists you love really matter to you so much, maybe you need to examine your own feelings about those artists.

if someone posts that they get nothing out of the rolling stones or bob dylan or the stooges, all artists I personally have gotten so much out of, that I kind of laugh to myself, think "their loss", and don't give it another thought. if someone posted the same thing about can or funkadelic or even keith rowe (an artist I feel so strongly about that I've devoted my professional life to building a label around him and his legacy), that's cool, different strokes.

if I really felt strongly about someone being slammed unfairly, either I'd post a specific answer to that, or start an entire new thread to discuss that artist more in depth, like the beatles one that just started.

the point of the thread to begin with wasn't bands you love something by but hate the rest, or bands you used to love but now hate, but bands you never connected with at all. to me, that's a very valid and interesting topic.

rentboy, I think this explains the genesis of this particular thread. I don't think by and large most involved in this thread are being argumentative rather debating the relative merits and whom does appeal and doesn't appeal to them. As with any forum it can and likely will devolve into this sucks, not it doesn't suck, you're crazy if you think it sucks sort of banter. But I don't think the thread was started with that intention although I can only speak for myself. I've learned that discussing music with the musically obsessed can at times be as fruitless as discussing religion or politics with a stranger. It can bring out the best and worst of people. Such is life though.


db

I agree with this. After all, if I don't like what somebody says about my fave artists (though it may piss me off... or make me laugh and chalk it up as their loss, depending on the person or comment made) I sure as hell don't have to take it seriously. Reviews (or nasty comments) usually say more about the reviewer than the actual merit of the subject, album or what have you. Does that make sense? Despite all my pretentious blathering previously, I really didn't have anything in particular to bitch about. Even though I'm pushing 30 (although I'm a young whippersnapper(?) compared to some of you) I feel like I still have a lot to learn about life. Not to mention a lot of listening and reading to do.

[user_189]

fair enough, i'll buy that

[user_125]

i do ignore some stuff intentionally. needless to say, anything that either racist or nazi is avoided.

i like boyd rice a lot

[faster]

"The first question I ask myself when something doesn't seem to be beautiful is why do I think it's not beautiful. And very shortly you discover that there is no reason." -John Cage

yes, everything is beautiful, good point. I'm all for citing Cage, but do you really think that's true? and even if it is, so what? do you like everything equally because you've found the specific beauty in it? no, of course not, no one does.

I agree with this quote entirely, and it meshes well with my experience of ever-changing preference: Our aesthetic likes and dislikes don't have anything to do with the music. We can have dialectical reasons (history, context) but that's overcoding. We can develop aesthetic criteria and stick to them and even reinforce them. But when we don't like something it's inside of us.

Which is okay! The day I like everything is the day I give up society and move into the temple for permanent contemplation. I don't think I've done enough acid for that though.

[washline]

i do ignore some stuff intentionally. needless to say, anything that either racist or nazi is avoided. muslimgauze. and lamonte young.

I don't find Muslimgauze racist. A partisan yes. A racist, no.

[grisha]

i didn't say muslimgauze was racist. he's no partisan either, though.

[washline]

i didn't say muslimgauze was racist. he's no partisan either, though.

Your post suggested you felt that he was either racist or nazi. OK. Fine. But that he is a partisan is not much in dispute, and I doubt Bryn Jones, were he still alive, would deny it either.

[user_70]

this thread turned out about how I figured it would.