sound poetry

[anwandter]

...and regarding Paul Dutton and Jaap Blonk: it has been really an incredible experience to see and hear them live, though I don't listen their CDs very much. As far as I remember, "Mouth Pieces" (Paul Dutton's first) is very well recorded, sounds really good, and is better than the second one (whose name I can't remember now).
But I think that this sort of sound poetry (i.e. without electronic manipulation, sometimes improvised, etc.) works better in live situations. Cobbing, for example, sounds at times rather precarious in the recordings mentioned. I had the opportunity to attend to several of his performances and he was always very solid, (and funny too), managed to get the most of spaces that were many times inadequate for this kind of performances, with no amplification, etc.

[drip]

I've been really loving Pierre-Andre Arcand. There's a 3-CD set on OHM editions.

And I don't see mention of Sten Hanson, though the OP likely knows his work through Chopin, at the very least.

going back to this old thread which i completely forgot. until now.

yeah, pierre-andre arcand kicks ass. really love everything i heard from him. definitely a unique voice in this field.
if i'm not wrong all 3 cd's are meant to be played simultaneously. someone gave it a try?
a similar impression, although very different, made (manon) anne gillis on me. everything fom her comes highly recommended from me.


so what's the deal with sten hanson? i got a lp on alga marghen from him, but other records of him left me rather underwhelmed. recommendations?

[drip]

And I don't see mention of Sten Hanson, though the OP likely knows his work through Chopin, at the very least.

kp* mentioned Hanson in his post. As he mentions, Hanson's pieces, like Åke Hodell's, I think belong to a different but related field of text-sound composition, since they rely on the meaning of words as well as on the sound produced. These were often polemical and political. Possibly this is what kp* was getting at in saying that they can occasionally get old quickly. But whatever their differences in emphases, both camps seemed to take on the avant-garde idea that it was self-evident that language was abused by those in power, that poetry was suffering as a result, and therefore that a principal motivation in their work should be to somehow resist this. The text-sound people often confronted propaganda and language head on where sound poetry favoured an anti-semantic approach. Chopin's emphasis is very much on the poetry of sound, and even where he takes words ("rouge" or "philosophie") as a starting point the effect is more like the sound produced just happens to be a word also.

As you (drip) say, the box set of LPs by the Lettrist François Dufrêne looks and sounds impressive (from the little I've heard), and it looks like a good companion to the Chopin Revue OU set--but unfortunately it's extremely expensive.

well, fearandpanic, all aspects that you wrote about are interesting. i would love to talk with you about certain aspects, but due to my limited knowledge of the english language i think it would take me ages to write something...
although i would appreciate if you would give a few recommendations of important text-sound/sound poetry records

[jcg]

Right now listening to this:



This is the brand new comp of Kommissar Hjuler & Mama Bär that just came out on Intransitive. It's aptly titled Asylum Lunaticum and, after of couple of listens, I can't make up my mind about this one: do I love this, do I hate this or do I don't care? I guess that's good...

Super weird vocal improv + tape recorder abuse (minimal most of the time except the cut-ups-heavy first track), somewhere in between disturbing poetry and real-time action(ism): you don't hear this kind of shit everyday!

Apparently they have hundreds of very-limited self-released material on their own SHMF "label" and occasional contributions to the Ultra Eczema or Tanzprocesz catalogs. And there's even a collab of Mama Bär w/ Runzelstirn and Gurgelstøck on Blossoming Noise!

[jcg]

Runzelstirn and Gurgelstock

I realize there's no mention of Rudolf Eb.er or any weirdos from the Schimpfluch-Gruppe in this thread. I'm far from being familiar with their work and even wonder if they'd appreciate being labelled "sound poets"... Can anyone comment on that?

[ImprovSpirit]

I recently discovered an old recording by K. Curtis Lyle & Julius Hemphill that rants at great length on and around the subject of Blind Lemon Jefferson. Very interesting.

[Brian Olewnick]

Happened to see Tomomo Adachi (who has worked with Ami, I believe) at Roulette last night, performing sound poetry/electronics including Hugo Ball's "Gadji Beri Bimba" and four works by concrete poet Seiichi Niikuni. Write-up to come this evening at the ol' blog. Very good at it's best which, for me, tended to coincide with its simplest.

[missprissy]

"Mouth Pieces" (Paul Dutton's first) is very well recorded, sounds really good, and is better than the second one (whose name I can't remember now).

will this be "Oralizations" ?

my all time favourite is Henri Chopin
cheers

[anwandter]

...I think that's the title, and yeah Henri Chopin is also my favorite. For Fylkingen stuff, I like this compilation a lot: Various - The Pioneers: Five Text-Sound Artists (Phono Suecia, PSCD 063, 1992)

[jenn devious]

ake hodell- verbal brainwash and other works
john cage/ david tudor- indeterminacy
lots by burroughs
audrey chen

about runzelstirn &gurgelstock, those dudes are always filling their albums with wretching, gargling, belching, guttural sounds, but not speech so much so i geuss it depends on how youre defining sound poetry

[faster]

audrey chen

Does she do sound poetry? I've heard the "vocalizations" in her improvised music, but found them pretty tough to take, personally.

[jpeatt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q45Lc4kOXGI

dylan nyoukis.

[Min Boyce]

I don't know what is correctly classified as Sound Poetry or not Sound Poetry, but check out some of the stuff The Bohman Brothers get up to. In addition to their wonderful junk shop bric-a-brac work, they do things with speech, which is particularly interesting as Adam Bohman has a pronounced stutter. Purely Practical/Western Omelettes sees them both reading product information from a hardware catalogue. Live version at the start of this youtube clip.

They also did a wonderful set at Instal Glasgow in 2006 featuring similar things - an mp3 of the performance was floating around the net some time afterwards, I'm sure it's possible to find it if you look in the right places.