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By three, I was referring to Omen / RB / Exorcist.surfer wrote:
Rosemary's Baby is the weakest of the three.
yeah, i find this strange as well, but if Nosferatu counts than why the hell not?Dan Warburton wrote:Interesting that the discussion has veered towards horror films, because I don't really see the Roeg film as a horror film at all.
this kinda goes without saying, but you should get around to seeing Bad Timing at some point.Dan Warburton wrote:Though I do prefer it to Man Who Fell To Earth (Bowie's cool, but it's far too long, drags near the end horribly). Haven't seen Bad Timing! (Sorry Jim..) Performance and Walkabout are both terrific.
i was avoiding this one like the plague, but the sight of Bill Nighy cutting a rug there has actually raised it a little in my estimation. now i'm just avoiding it like swine flu.Dan Warburton wrote:Meanwhile, avoid this one like the plague:
Richard Curtis, The Boat That Rocked, 2009
I think I must've played too much Quake and Half-life, then. Exploding people with lightning guns or using gravity manipulators to throw pigs at them seems a bit old hat to me these days...leroysghost wrote:eh, the set up alone pretty paltry, it's just that the way everything in the film was done made it so much more then the sum of it's parts. the characters were affecting, the violence was inventive, and the different types of video/film used created a very visceral and coherent experience.Gaendaal wrote:I thought it was OK, not outstanding. The setup was fascinating but, like a lot of sci-fi, it kind of tailed away near the end into people just shooting at each other. In some ways I think the short it's based on was more effective.leroysghost wrote:
Neill Blomkamp - District 9 (2009)
film of the fucking year! if you haven't seen it yet, do it quickly while it's still in theaters.
They're horror movies. Its just that horror movies were a little tamer in the 70s. I realize they pale in comparison to Saw VIleroysghost wrote:yeah, i find this strange as well, but if Nosferatu counts than why the hell not?Dan Warburton wrote:Interesting that the discussion has veered towards horror films, because I don't really see the Roeg film as a horror film at all.
Not to mention a more-wooden-than-usual Gregory Peck.walto wrote:The Omen (which I really can't stand--partly because it's a Carmina Burana festival, partly because of all the religious bullshit.)
this is pretty condescending, both to 70's horror and to the Saw franchise. what makes Saw so special? I've seen the first three Saw movies and they seemed about as tame as something like Twitch of the Death Nerve, Deep Red or Suspiria were (less fun too).surfer wrote: They're horror movies. Its just that horror movies were a little tamer in the 70s. I realize they pale in comparison to Saw VI
I have no idea, I shouldnt have mentioned it, as I've never seen any of them. I was just surprised that there are 6 of them! Where does the time go?!?!leroysghost wrote:this is pretty condescending, both to 70's horror and to the Saw franchise. what makes Saw so special?surfer wrote: They're horror movies. Its just that horror movies were a little tamer in the 70s. I realize they pale in comparison to Saw VI
Honestly, I know nothing about "horror" movies, and never heard of any of these. I'm just throwing the term out there as a broad umbrella catch-all.Twitch of the Death Nerve, Deep Red or Suspiria were (less fun too).
In every LG post, there is one sentence where you completely lose me. This is that sentence.i will admit that the more Saw's they make, the more interested i get. maybe in a few years the thing will be such a huge convoluted soap opera that i won't be able to stop myself from watching the rest of them!
I guess if you are referring specifically to the gore factor, then yes, neither of those movies are "horror", but then again, Rosemary's Baby doesnt have any gore either.Don't Look Now and Nosferatu are both moody as hell, but neither have any particular "horror" moments like the other films being mentioned.
every post? wow. sorry, i'd just assumed you'd seen one or two of them. it's just that by Saw III the plot was actually starting to get pretty intricate due to the constant killing off of characters and introduction of new ones. so i can only imagine what it must be like after six films. i don't like the style of the Saw films at all, but the character aspect starts to interest me the more and them they introduce/kill off/bring back/etc., so i was just speculating on how long it will take before i break down and watch them all.surfer wrote:In every LG post, there is one sentence where you completely lose me. This is that sentence.i will admit that the more Saw's they make, the more interested i get. maybe in a few years the thing will be such a huge convoluted soap opera that i won't be able to stop myself from watching the rest of them!
i wasn't referring to gore specifically, for example: Rosemary's Baby has Mia Farrow getting raped by the devil, whereas Don't Look Now has, what, Donald Sutherland hanging off a scaffold?surfer wrote: I guess if you are referring specifically to the gore factor, then yes, neither of those movies are "horror", but then again, Rosemary's Baby doesnt have any gore either.
Symbolically raped. Its trippy 60s kaleidoscope effects while Mia squirms and screams and has, what, fake claw marks on her?leroysghost wrote:i wasn't referring to gore specifically, for example: Rosemary's Baby has Mia Farrow getting raped by the devil, whereas Don't Look Now has, what, Donald Sutherland hanging off a scaffold?surfer wrote: I guess if you are referring specifically to the gore factor, then yes, neither of those movies are "horror", but then again, Rosemary's Baby doesnt have any gore either.
in the end of Rosemary's Baby it is revealed that she really was drugged and raped by hokey looking devil, whereas the end of Don't Look Now is almost entirely psychology. it shows how his inability to get over his guilt about his child got him murdered by a hokey dwarf serial killer.surfer wrote:Symbolically raped. Its trippy 60s kaleidoscope effects while Mia squirms and screams and has, what, fake claw marks on her?leroysghost wrote:i wasn't referring to gore specifically, for example: Rosemary's Baby has Mia Farrow getting raped by the devil, whereas Don't Look Now has, what, Donald Sutherland hanging off a scaffold?surfer wrote: I guess if you are referring specifically to the gore factor, then yes, neither of those movies are "horror", but then again, Rosemary's Baby doesnt have any gore either.
Don't Look Now has the scene where the child in red turns towards him and its that creepy old dwarf woman.
Any movie that includes a dwarf septegenarian serial killer wandering around in the Venetian fog in a red cape is "horror" in my book! C'mon!leroysghost wrote:murdered by a hokey dwarf serial killer.
surfer wrote:Any movie that includes a dwarf septegenarian serial killer wandering around in the Venetian fog in a red cape is "horror" in my book! C'mon!
it could just be that i've never been frightened by dwarves, fog or otherwise.surfer wrote:Any movie that includes a dwarf septegenarian serial killer wandering around in the Venetian fog in a red cape is "horror" in my book! C'mon!
i like this one a lot, but i'm pretty biased when it comes to Herzog.Dan Warburton wrote: Werner Herzog, Cobra Verde, 1987
Despite some spectacular shots (you wonder how much he paid his extras), it never really takes off. Kinski plays Kinski and Herzog plays Herzog. The problem is that KK has nobody to bounce off (his character, I mean - in real life he bounced off Herzog and fought with everyone) - he's better when he has someone of his stature to fight against. The beginning of the story in Brazil is more convincing, a kind of Amazonian spaghetti western, but it runs out of steam when it moves to Africa. The Popol Vuh score is pretty limp too. The original Bruce Chatwin novel's a good read, though.
Popol Vuh almost killed Aguirre for me, and would have if that film wasn't such a force of nature. (But then I can't get into the Kraut thing anyways, since I grew up when they'd all turned mersh and were sickening the German airwaves, so I'm listening to the whole stuff with every signal of impending cheesiness amplified out of proportion.)Dan Warburton wrote: The Popol Vuh score is pretty limp too.
Ha, I clicked on this and got a kind of parental advisory warning - evidently the good folks at Yob Tube have got a thing about bare breasts.. but I see which scene you mean, and, yes, it's (she's) gorgeous - notice that's the only fucking time Kinski actually smiles in the film!leroysghost wrote: this scene is one of my favorites:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_--8Tw ... 3&index=15
I'm but a humble occasional footsoldier in Tony's mighty army, I'm afraid, but I see what you mean. (Why don't you write 'em a letter? That's how I ended up writing for them back in 98.. they got pissed off at seeing my name in the letters pageWombatz wrote: and oh, Dan W, could you tell the good folks at the Wire to go a little easier on that word "motorik"
) BTW, my pet peeves are "eschew" and "birth" (the verb, not the noun), both David Keenan specialities! But what the hell.. I overuse brackets ((told you)) and have invented the two dot ellipsis.. For some reason three dots feels too long... see what I mean? Maybe not.Dude, that two dot ellipsis will go down in grammar history as your invention.Dan Warburton wrote:and have invented the two dot ellipsis.. For some reason three dots feels too long... see what I mean? Maybe not.
i just watched this again and loved every minute of it. the film has a very elusive special quality to it that i can't really describe. whereas the Aguirre shot is all about the rapacious and looming impossibility of the environment, Cobra Verde is much more about people and movement, with all the disorienting shots and optical effects.Dan Warburton wrote: But elsewhere, man, it's pretty sloooow.. all those super crowd shots (the flag signalling along the beach..), it's like let's see if I can outdo the opening shot of Aguirre. You can't, Werner, you can't.
