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kp* wrote: Notations21 by Theresa Sauer
stumbled on a copy of this when browsing at barnes and noble today. Really beautiful book!
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jkudler wrote: there's also the various brief lamonte young scores from his fluxus/quasi-fluxus period, and various sonic arts union works, many for solo performers. lucier's are the ones i've seen the most of.
Those LaMonte scores really grabbed my imagination when I first started making music, always wanted to do the butterflies one, there's also some good one-liners by George Brecht from the same era such as filling a french horn with marbles, screws, bouncy balls, paper clips etc etc and then just walking on stage and bowing so that it pours out across the floor.

Recently found Lucier's Action Music for Piano in the library, which is a very surprising piece for him to have written. Very complicated instructions and bizarre almost-pure-graphic notation on about 25 sheets, haven't studied it in detail yet.

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Stephen wrote:
jkudler wrote: Recently found Lucier's Action Music for Piano in the library, which is a very surprising piece for him to have written. Very complicated instructions and bizarre almost-pure-graphic notation on about 25 sheets, haven't studied it in detail yet.
huh, don't know that piece. is it fairly early? as far as i can remember, a lot of his "classic" pieces simply provide text instructions, although i can't seem to find any actual scores online. but i believe something like "vespers" simply provides written instructions to the performers.

we seem to have several overlapping threads right now for graphic scores and such, but per another one. . my sense is that these pieces are largely performed with the composer's involvement, indeed following some kind of oral tradition.

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jkudler wrote: huh, don't know that piece. is it fairly early? as far as i can remember, a lot of his "classic" pieces simply provide text instructions, although i can't seem to find any actual scores online. but i believe something like "vespers" simply provides written instructions to the performers.

we seem to have several overlapping threads right now for graphic scores and such, but per another one. . my sense is that these pieces are largely performed with the composer's involvement, indeed following some kind of oral tradition.
Its 1962, written for Frederic Rzewski. I'll scan some of it in at some point and post up a few pages. Some of of his scores are published in the MusikTexte book on him, mostly instructions though the ones w/ sweeping sine wave oscillators are trad. notation I believe. Funny that you should mention an oral tradition - the only time I have seen anything performed, the pieces were indeed workshoped with him present and imo he smashed a couple of interesting decisions they had made.

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Stephen wrote:
jkudler wrote: huh, don't know that piece. is it fairly early? as far as i can remember, a lot of his "classic" pieces simply provide text instructions, although i can't seem to find any actual scores online. but i believe something like "vespers" simply provides written instructions to the performers.

we seem to have several overlapping threads right now for graphic scores and such, but per another one. . my sense is that these pieces are largely performed with the composer's involvement, indeed following some kind of oral tradition.
Its 1962, written for Frederic Rzewski. I'll scan some of it in at some point and post up a few pages. Some of of his scores are published in the MusikTexte book on him, mostly instructions though the ones w/ sweeping sine wave oscillators are trad. notation I believe. Funny that you should mention an oral tradition - the only time I have seen anything performed, the pieces were indeed workshoped with him present and imo he smashed a couple of interesting decisions they had made.
huh - anything specific you remember? i guess i could probably guess. . .

yeah, i'd like to check out various of the musictexte books - maybe i can track them down from a local college. so pricey.

would much appreciate if you find time to scan.

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jkudler wrote: huh - anything specific you remember?
There's a piece for voices and hollow objects (vases and such) where you have to sing a sweeping tone into your object to search for its resonant frequencies. The space it was in had a balcony round all four sides, and the players had dispersed themselves around the balcony w/ the audience below - spatialising the piece, which I liked. He made them come downstairs and line up like a choir, apologising for being so conservative iirc.

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For those anywhere near Philadelphia, i'll be leading a workshop on this very topic in april.
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RFKorp wrote:
kp* wrote: Notations21 by Theresa Sauer
stumbled on a copy of this when browsing at barnes and noble today. Really beautiful book!
there is a presentation video of this book here:
http://www.newmusicbox.org/article.nmbx?id=6105

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i think this may have been mentioned before, but i just stumbled on a bunch of werner dafeldecker's scores (i think these were all polwechsel pieces), which are pretty interesting to check out:
http://www.dafeldecker.net/works/scores.html