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TK can be annoying, but he and Marcus Thompson are often the first sources for breaking team news.

Glad Clark is back, he's still improving. Surprised Mo isn't getting interest, but would love to see him stay with the team. Ezeli to the Blazers for less than I thought he'd get ($7M/ yr)

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Mo to Clippers. Good pickup for them. He'll be their backup center. He has a completely non-overlapping skill set with the departed Cole Aldrich.

Add: The Warriors did not offer Mo a contract. He signed a minimum one-year contract with the LAC.

McAdoo returning to GS. Interesting that they brought back him and Clark but not Speights.
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Willie Reed (played briefly for the Nets) is getting some interest from the Dubs, 6'9", plays the 4 & 5. Anybody seen this guy?
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SqDanceCallingSteve wrote:Willie Reed (played briefly for the Nets) is getting some interest from the Dubs, 6'9", plays the 4 & 5. Anybody seen this guy?
I was editing my last post to add the McAdoo signing when you posted this. He's one inch shorter and 10 pounds heavier than McAdoo. Both are PF's who could be small centers.

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Apparently the Celtics are still in the hunt for Okafor.
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heh, "hunt". he is close to worthless and no one wants him, most of all the Sixers who have 87 big men.

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jon abbey wrote:heh, "hunt". he is close to worthless and no one wants him, most of all the Sixers who have 87 big men.
538's CARMELO model disagrees :) They say he's worse then worthless, and won't be worth a salary >0 until 2018-19.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/car ... il-okafor/

Compare that projection to this:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/car ... porzingis/


It's possible or course, that in Boston's organization he develops into a much better player.

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His price has gone down a lot, apparently. So Boston won't have to give up a pick and a couple of good players to get him, as they were asked to do before draft night.

Meanwhile,
Brown, who turns 76 in September, had indicated late last season that he wanted to keep coaching as long as SMU would have him.
So natch.....
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SqDanceCallingSteve wrote:Dubs Summer League roster includes three non-rookies -- Ognjen Kuzmic back again, Landry Fields, and Xavier Henry.
Among the rookies: Mamadou N'Diaye, 22, 7'6" (making him the 36th tallest person in the world) with an 8' wingspan, 200 lbs.

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The Big Fundamental retires. 5 rings. Tied for second longest career with a single team.

Kobe Bryant 20 Lakers
Tim Duncan 19 Spurs
John Stockton 19 Jazz
Dirk Nowitzki 18* Mavericks
Karl Malone 18 Jazz
Reggie Miller 18 Pacers
* Does not include 2016-17
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As abbey has pointed out, all under Pop which is even more unusual. Just an incredible career. Made the playoffs every season.
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Draymond busted for assault in a bar fight in E. Lansing last night.
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There is no middle ground for the second and third tier free agents, Mozgov gets 4/64 and Sullinger 1/6. I'm not saying Sullinger is good or even necessarily better than Mozgov (Mozgov can defend the 5 if he's healthy), but that is a crazy difference. some of it is a musical chairs thing, but even still what a lottery, good and bad, for most free agents this summer.

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jon abbey wrote:There is no middle ground for the second and third tier free agents, Mozgov gets 4/64 and Sullinger 1/6. I'm not saying Sullinger is good or even necessarily better than Mozgov (Mozgov can defend the 5 if he's healthy), but that is a crazy difference. some of it is a musical chairs thing, but even still what a lottery, good and bad, for most free agents this summer.
Yes, that is weird. Sully started for much of the year here. I think, though, the paunch and an assumption about attitude issues (he punched his girlfriend, IIRC) hurt him --as well as being undersized for his position (forcing him to take more and more outside shots). But it's clear that he can rebound, and he can score some too. Seems like of the two, Mozgov is more of a question mark than he is--or at least as much of one. That's a huge monetary difference.
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walto wrote:
jon abbey wrote:There is no middle ground for the second and third tier free agents, Mozgov gets 4/64 and Sullinger 1/6. I'm not saying Sullinger is good or even necessarily better than Mozgov (Mozgov can defend the 5 if he's healthy), but that is a crazy difference. some of it is a musical chairs thing, but even still what a lottery, good and bad, for most free agents this summer.
Yes, that is weird. Sully started for much of the year here. I think, though, the paunch and an assumption about attitude issues (he punched his girlfriend, IIRC) hurt him --as well as being undersized for his position (forcing him to take more and more outside shots). But it's clear that he can rebound, and he can score some too. Seems like of the two, Mozgov is more of a question mark than he is--or at least as much of one. That's a huge monetary difference.
538's Carmelo model says that Sullinger is worth $18.6M in 2016-17 and Mozgov is worth $1.5M. Sullinger is 24 and improving and Mozgov is 30 and probably won't be as good as he was in 2014-15 when he was a marginal starter who had one great finals game.

I think Sullinger would have gotten a better deal if he had been on the market at the start of free agency. I haven't heard of a single person who thinks the Mozgov deal is good for LA.

Sully will have a good opportunity with Toronto and will be unrestricted a year from now when the cap breaks $100M.

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SqDanceCallingSteve wrote:Draymond busted for assault in a bar fight in E. Lansing last night.
2:30 AM in a bar, a Spartan defensive back named Jermaine Edmondson kept taunting Draymond, who finally slapped him in the face. But the charges will be dropped before he's indicted.
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Kuzmic making a case for picking him over Andy for backup center, he had the only plus on the team last game, and the highest this game with 12 pts, 11 boards and 4 blocks. He still has bad hands, but his shots are falling more and his defense is effective.
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For Timmy Turtlehead, the nickname "Big Fundamental" is apt but a most dismissable derision. I'd rather win than have style points. All respects to the great Tim Duncan for his HOF career.

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fuck that, style points all the way in hoops. I'll take Russell Westbrook's career over Tim Duncan's any day.

for those who are Duncan and fundamental fans, I will ask the question I always ask, are you also WNBA fans? because the best players/teams there have amazing fundamentals, they just can't, um, jump.

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for those who are Duncan and fundamental fans, I will ask the question I always ask, are you also WNBA fans? because the best players/teams there have amazing fundamentals, they just can't, um, jump.
Do you like fast music or slow music?
Loud music or soft music?
Sad music or happy music?
Easy music or hard music?


Sometimes this, sometimes that, no? Both sets of skills are impressive. If you're asking me, I wouldn't want either Timmy or Westbrook ALL the time.
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