Eliane Radigue

[tristan]

23five's forthcoming page also shows a title from Eliane Radigue to be in the pipeline, plus one from G*Park. Sweet.

[Dustin Hurt]

This was the piece The Wire published back in October 2005 (#260)

BTW, Naldjorlak 2 was writen for Carol Robinson and Bruno Martinez. I know the music of Carol Robinson through her Mode releases of Feldman, Scelsi, Berio and Nono. She is really great! But who is Bruno Martinez?

Bruno Martinez is the Principal Bass Clarinetist at the Paris Opera.

[frozen reeds]

Is some kind of film about Radigue forthcoming?

Found a "trailer" here - http://flamingcuntinthesky.blogspot.com ... ailer.html.

[Chaney]

Is some kind of film about Radigue forthcoming?

Found a "trailer" here - http://flamingcuntinthesky.blogspot.com ... ailer.html.

See:

http://vimeo.com/user1589422

http://www.ima.or.at/?cat=10&language=de

[snailed]

Is some kind of film about Radigue forthcoming?

Found a "trailer" here - http://flamingcuntinthesky.blogspot.com ... ailer.html.

See:

http://vimeo.com/user1589422

http://www.ima.or.at/?cat=10&language=de

Does anyone know if the DVD includes English subtitles? Otherwise, we'll have to start a fund to get some very nice french-speaking IHM-er to make some .srt files

[jcg]

Is some kind of film about Radigue forthcoming?

Found a "trailer" here - http://flamingcuntinthesky.blogspot.com ... ailer.html.

See:

http://vimeo.com/user1589422

http://www.ima.or.at/?cat=10&language=de

Does anyone know if the DVD includes English subtitles? Otherwise, we'll have to start a fund to get some very nice french-speaking IHM-er to make some .srt files

Given what the video director (Anais Prosaic) has to say about the final cut (not hers obviously) of the Radigue documentary, I wonder if it's really worth watching...

There are English and German subtitles, I think, on the dvd. To be honest, I was so unhappy with the end of this project, that I've never watched it... The film (or at least what remains of my editing after the producer changed it and shorted it) is now a small dvd that you can get at ima.or.at/?cat=10&language=de
In my original there was a 5 minutes live concert of Eliane's music played by cellist Charles Curtis. This, as well as a lot of photos, does not exist anymore on this dvd

[snailed]

That's a shame, but I have to say I'm still interested in watching it. The Curtis footage would be great, but any video footage of Radigue is worth watching for me, considering I've never seen her in that medium.

[frozen reeds]

First glimpse of these, at least for me.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Triptych-Eliane ... 002E2M5Q4/

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vice-Versa-Etc- ... 002E2M5QE/

[snailed]

Both of those look lovely. Thanks for the links.



Nice covers.

I know Triptych was performed during this interview - at least one movement of it: http://radiom.org/detail.php?omid=MC.1980.12.11.A

It will be nice to finally hear these works in their entirety. I hope the other works composed before the ARP mentioned in the description posted earlier will show up sometime.

1970 was an important year in Eliane Radigue’s musical life, since it was the year just before she acquired her ARP 2500 synthesizer. In the last year that she dedicated to feedback, several milestone pieces saw the light of day: Omnht, a wonderful sound installation for three out-of-phase tape loops and wall-mounted loudspeakers; Labyrinthe Sonore (premiered at Mills College in collaboration with Pauline Oliveros, Maggie Payne, and William Winant); Opus 17, one of her first compositions in fixed duration (according to Rhys Chatham, a decisive piece that would change his own compositional career); and Vice-Versa, etc., which appears to be her very last feedback loop composition.

[faster]

I don't like much Radigue (my biases), but I enjoy Naldjorlak quite a bit. Has she done other stuff with non-electronic instruments in that area? Anything available?

[jon abbey]

we have similar biases along these lines, but somehow she gets through mine, I'm a big fan of most of her work. nice covers!

[snailed]

Naldjolak kind of underwhelmed me, but I think a lot of it is the way it's recorded. Just hasn't hit me yet, but I think if I saw it live I might change my mind. Regardless, Naldjorlak is part of three pieces scored for acoustic instruments- the other two haven't been recorded yet (i'm not sure if they've even all premiered yet - someone know?). Those are all the acoustic works I know of unless anyone knows otherwise.

There is also Elemental II which is I guess processed electric bass in max/msp, but I've never really had the urge to hear that one and I'm guessing it isn't up yr alley either, Joe. Anyone want to vouch for that one?

[javier4w]

Naldjolak kind of underwhelmed me, but I think a lot of it is the way it's recorded. Just hasn't hit me yet, but I think if I saw it live I might change my mind. Regardless, Naldjorlak is part of three pieces scored for acoustic instruments- the other two haven't been recorded yet (i'm not sure if they've even all premiered yet - someone know?). Those are all the acoustic works I know of unless anyone knows otherwise.

There is also Elemental II which is I guess processed electric bass in max/msp, but I've never really had the urge to hear that one and I'm guessing it isn't up yr alley either, Joe. Anyone want to vouch for that one?

Elemental II is great, but it depends if you like Radigue's work or not. KT Toeplitz plays electric bass, but it sounds like anything else. Naldjorlak I is one of my favourite compositions from Eliane Radigue. I saw Charles Curtis playing it two years ago in Barcelona, a few months before it was released by Shiiin, and it's true, I prefer it played live. At the same show Toeplitz played Elemental II and was really fantastic.

I think all Naldjorlaks han been premiered and played several times. Take a look here http://www.crsounds.com/textes/texte_events.htm for forthcoming performances in Netherlands, Belgium and France.

[diggedy d]

I'd be quite keen on seeing that DVD, despite the caveats. She comes across very well in those clips, at least with my fractured French. If anyone has seen it, do report back.

I like Radigue a lot, though Naldjorlaks bored the ass off me for some reason.

[jkudler]

Naldjolak kind of underwhelmed me, but I think a lot of it is the way it's recorded. Just hasn't hit me yet, but I think if I saw it live I might change my mind.

i actually quite liked the recording, the one time i heard it, which contrasted with the live performance in being surprisingly FULL. live, i recall it feeling a lot more quiet and delicate, though i imagine the specific room making a big difference. not really making a qualitative distinction here really, but i remember being surprised at how the recording differed from my memories.

-j.

[snailed]

Naldjolak kind of underwhelmed me, but I think a lot of it is the way it's recorded. Just hasn't hit me yet, but I think if I saw it live I might change my mind.

i actually quite liked the recording, the one time i heard it, which contrasted with the live performance in being surprisingly FULL. live, i recall it feeling a lot more quiet and delicate, though i imagine the specific room making a big difference. not really making a qualitative distinction here really, but i remember being surprised at how the recording differed from my memories.

-j.

Interesting. For me, that might even by my problem with the recording. It's almost aggressive in its tone at times, which seemed to contradict what I expected from it and from Radigue in general. Maybe that's a good thing, actually. I'm going to give it another listen sometime soon.

I have no doubt the room has quite a bit of effect; I seem to remember reading something about the wolf tones chosen are the ones that fall against the resonant tones in the room (wolf tones are two very dissonant notes, for those not familiar with the terminology- where's the noise band with that name?). Not sure what the score's like so I can't tell.

Considering the intention seems to be to get the most dissonance as possible out of the room, perhaps the recording is appropriate in its tone. I think I may have just talked myself into liking it.

[c_sns]

i actually quite liked the recording, the one time i heard it, which contrasted with the live performance in being surprisingly FULL

Are you saying that the recording was full? I thought the opposite. When we saw him we were sitting less then 10 feet away from Charles. It was very intimate and made it easier to hear all of the little details that I thought the recording lacked. Perhaps you were sitting further away?

There is a nice piece written by Charles about the process of working with Eliane on the Garden Variety website (http://www.gardenvariety.org/projects/r ... notes.html), which maybe useful to some readers here in understanding how the piece was scored.

[jkudler]

i actually quite liked the recording, the one time i heard it, which contrasted with the live performance in being surprisingly FULL

Are you saying that the recording was full? I thought the opposite. When we saw him we were sitting less then 10 feet away from Charles. It was very intimate and made it easier to hear all of the little details that I thought the recording lacked. Perhaps you were sitting further away?

There is a nice piece written by Charles about the process of working with Eliane on the Garden Variety website (http://www.gardenvariety.org/projects/r ... notes.html), which maybe useful to some readers here in understanding how the piece was scored.

maybe it's just my poor memory of both, or maybe i'm letting my memory of the end of the piece color the whole thing. i just remember having a sense of delicacy and quiet and having to really focus and listen, live. and i remember being surprised that the recording was relatively in-your-face and full. but maybe i'm totally wrong; i can't even find the recording on my computer now to check.

-j.

[aldo]

Naldjolak kind of underwhelmed me, but I think a lot of it is the way it's recorded. Just hasn't hit me yet, but I think if I saw it live I might change my mind. Regardless, Naldjorlak is part of three pieces scored for acoustic instruments- the other two haven't been recorded yet (i'm not sure if they've even all premiered yet - someone know?). Those are all the acoustic works I know of unless anyone knows otherwise.

I saw Naldjolak live in Dijon.It was fantastic, but I have never interested by the disc. Maybe they should have recorded it in a proper studio.

[javier4w]

23five's forthcoming page also shows a title from Eliane Radigue to be in the pipeline, plus one from G*Park. Sweet.

It says "title to be announced". Does it mean it's a new composition?