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it's that kind of "puzzlement" that I really enjoy in this music.
You hit that on the head, Matt. My first experience with hearing Jack Wright was probably the most powerful example of this. I just had to sit down, and admit I had no idea what was happening. I'm starting to understand what's going on much more now, but obviously, still a lot left to learn/understand.

I just finished reading through this whole thread, and I have to mention something about the street date/recording date thing... for me, the street date of the album is something I pay a bit of attention to-- I assume that these sounds will be influencing performances being recorded around this time... so you can match them, you see? So much of experimental music isn't widely distributed, though, that I think oftentimes a release from 50 years ago might be just as influential as something from last week. If it's "new to you" that's really all that matters. I'm very interested in those listeners who are in rural areas, or at least located more off the beaten path... I think these listeners have a cobbled-together aesthetic where new and old mingle with differing scenes and threads of sound... where listeners are influenced by this melange of what they've had access to, rather than by any coherent progression of a musical style.

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Hm, I don't post on here as much as I like to, because I already post a lot on another forum, and there's only so much of the day that one can devote to the internet, even in university vacations...
So I suppose you'd have to categorise me as an 'occasional lurker', unsavoury as such a description may be...

Anyway,
matt wrote: it's that kind of "puzzlement" that I really enjoy in this music.
Yes, I suppose (from my rather ignorant perspective), you have to strike a balance between the 'good' puzzlement, a kind of bemusement/wonder/altered state of consciousness which is what I find I most value in improvised music (as in a FOTC gig earlier this year, which I have to admit was my first acquaintance with this type of music) or the sort of 'bad' puzzlement of the 'how did he do that/oh wow he's making his trumpet sound like an aeroplane' variety. The latter being a kind of 'surface' attraction - oh this music is unusual therefore cool - as opposed to a genuine engagement with the sounds produced and the possibilites for musical expression that they offer. Because otherwise you get int othe sort of sittuation that exists in a lot of fusion - the guitar players's hands are flying everywhere but what is he saying? (Shawn Lane for example). Likewise - they're producing really unearthly, different sounds from their instruments, but what are they saying?

As Matt puts it,
matt wrote:Possibly because the emphasis in this music is often on novelty (he's doing these amazing noises on a saxophone!!; he's doing these amazing noises on a pair of headphones!!)
matt wrote: Maybe that's starting to change as these noises have become as much of a lingua franca as the major scale.
Yes, it will be very interesting to see what the future holds, how these sounds can be move forward, how the 'style' of music develops

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I haven't seen a link in here to this excellent & enlightening interview with Keith Rowe, dating from april 2007, so here you guys go...

http://www.ronsen.org/monkminkpinkpunk/12/rowe.html

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Schiksalgemeinschaft wrote:I haven't seen a link in here to this excellent & enlightening interview with Keith Rowe, dating from april 2007, so here you guys go...

http://www.ronsen.org/monkminkpinkpunk/12/rowe.html
awesome, thanks. nice pictures, too! just a skim so far, but it's interesting to see keith getting away from some of his usual interview topics (visual art, etc., although it's there) and into some of the mechanics of the music. maybe it was just his mood then, as i remember some surprisingly candid (and dorky) conversations we had about electronics, fans, batteries, etc. when he was here for that tour.

oh, and keith is back in the states next month, with julien ottavi. maybe jon has full details? we are/were trying to get something to work for philly, but i'm not sure of the status of that.

-jesse

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PHILLY:
rowe - oct 26
julien - oct 27
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jkudler wrote: oh, and keith is back in the states next month, with julien ottavi. maybe jon has full details? we are/were trying to get something to work for philly, but i'm not sure of the status of that.

-jesse
Well I mentioned it in the Upcoming Concerts thread but Keith will be playing in Seattle, WA on October 15th and Vancouver BC, on October 19th. Then from what I understand there will be some shows in NYC, Jon knows the details on that.
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I don't have specifics for most of these, just his general travel/performance schedule:

10/15: Seattle
10/19: Vancouver, solo show
10/20: Vancouver, workshop
10/23: NYC, Issue Project Room, with Julien Ottavi, solo/solo/duo
10/24: NYC, Issue Project Room, with Julien Ottavi, not sure yet what this will consist of
10/26: Philly, as Dustin said (this is solo, Dustin?)

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