Re: Futbol 2020-21
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:57 pm
Unexpected (and flattering) win for PSG tonight
contaminating improvisation since 2003
wait that's it ... after winning the quintuple or whatever this year, pep will have no more challenges left at city, and the best way to twist that final stake in mourinho's wound will be to take over the spurs team as is and do the same with them. i'm afraid that means henceforth i'll root against them hard, and may you all choke on the silverware pouring in.
Whoa whoa whoa. What happened to our plan for Harry as player-manager? That's the only way he's staying!Wombatz wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:25 pmwait that's it ... after winning the quintuple or whatever this year, pep will have no more challenges left at city, and the best way to twist that final stake in mourinho's wound will be to take over the spurs team as is and do the same with them. i'm afraid that means henceforth i'll root against them hard, and may you all choke on the silverware pouring in.
Top European Soccer Teams Form Breakaway League
LONDON — A dozen of the world’s richest and most storied soccer clubs on Sunday announced that they had formed a breakaway European club competition that would, if it comes to fruition, upend the structures, economics and relationships that have bound global soccer for nearly a century.
After months of secret talks, the breakaway teams — which include Real Madrid and Barcelona in Spain; Manchester United and Liverpool in England; and Juventus and A.C. Milan in Italy — confirmed their plans late Sunday. They said they planned to add at least three more founding members, hold midweek matches that would put the league in direct competition with the existing Champions League, and begin play “as soon as practicable.”
“We will help football at every level and take it to its rightful place in the world,” said Real Madrid President Florentino Pérez, who was named the first chairman of what the clubs were calling the Super League.
The league they have agreed to form — an alliance of top clubs closer in concept to closed leagues like the N.F.L. and the N.B.A. than soccer’s current model — would bring about the most significant restructuring of elite European soccer since the 1950s, and could herald the largest transfer of wealth to a small set of teams in modern sports history.
In its current form, European soccer supplements domestic league play — an English league for English teams, a Spanish one for Spanish clubs — with Continental competitions between the best clubs. The most prestigious of those, the Champions League, brings together the best teams from each domestic league each year to play for the title of Europe’s, and arguably the world’s, best club.
The current system funnels hundreds of millions of dollars of annual television and sponsorship revenue to the world’s richest clubs, who supplement their domestic revenue with multimillion-dollar payouts from the Champions League. But the format also sustains smaller teams in each country, who benefit from the gloss of their encounters with the giants and share in the money those teams bring in from broadcasters.
The new superleague model would change that, by stripping the Champions League of its most attractive and most successful teams and effectively walling off the richest clubs in their own closed competition — and allowing them to split the billions of dollars in annual revenue among themselves. According to the Super League’s announcement, the founding clubs will split 3.5 billion euros (almost $4.2 billion) for signing on to establish “a sustainable financial foundation.” The per-team figure means each founding club will receive about $400 million — more than four times what the Champions League winner took home in 2020.
The 12 teams that signed up as founders are, for the moment, limited to a dozen clubs from Spain, Italy and England. A cohort of six teams from the Premier League — United, Liverpool, Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham — represents the biggest grouping from a single country. Atlético Madrid is the other team from Spain that is said to have endorsed the project, while the Milan rivals Internazionale and A.C. Milan would join Juventus as Italy’s representatives.
Three more clubs will join as founding — and thus permanent — members, organizers said, and a qualifying mechanism will be created to fill the five other places in the 20-team Super League each season.
A women’s league will be launched as well, the announcement said, presumably including the women’s sides of many of the same clubs.
European soccer officials moved quickly to try to block the project. The Premier League condemned the concept in a statement on Sunday and also sent a letter to its 20 member clubs warning them not to take part. Officials at European soccer’s governing body, UEFA, which runs the Champions League, labeled the proposal for a closed superleague a “cynical project” in a statement.
The missive was co-signed by the Premier League, La Liga in Spain and Italy’s Serie A, as well as the soccer federations of each country. Within hours, France’s federation and the French league had added their voices to the growing opposition inside key European soccer circles. Politicians, including Britain’s prime minister, Boris Johnson, and the French president, Emmanuel Macron, also weighed in to denounce the plans.
But UEFA was taking the threat seriously. Its leaders spent the weekend in discussions about how to block the plan, including banning the breakaway teams from their domestic leagues and blocking their players from competing for their national teams in events like the World Cup. European officials also pointedly reminded the prospective super-league clubs (and, effectively, their players) that soccer’s global governing body, FIFA, has backed their threats of expulsion.
FIFA on Sunday expressed its “disapproval” of the concept of a closed league, but refrained from the type of threats being lobbed by top officials in Europe.
the key matchup to watch here will be between the The English FA and the Premier League. iwe are talking about either the 6 clubs getting some form of pressure from the wider Premier League or if that's not possible the FA disbanding the Premier League altogether.Fabrizio Romano@FabrizioRomano
After Borussia Dortmund statement, also RB Leipzig sources confirmed that they’ve no intention to join #SuperLeague in the next weeks, as SkyDE confirmed.
BVB CEO Watzke also stated that “FC Bayern and B. Dortmund have 100% compatible views”, both against the #SuperLeague.
George Davidson emails in an interesting thought: “National government may have limited formal powers to stop any super league. But local government may have more, stronger and long forgotten powers. Football Clubs use the name of their towns and cities with the permission of the local council. If Liverpool Council decides it no longer wants Liverpool FC to bear its name, then they could withdraw that right. The club could still exist and play in the new ESL but call itself something else (Red Mersey?) but they could no longer call itself Liverpool. That would be an utterly extraordinary move but maybe even the threat would be something.”
Yeah well, it seems like all this is going to be tied up ala Brexit in courts and litigation for a while.DarkAttraktor wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:46 amGeorge Davidson emails in an interesting thought: “National government may have limited formal powers to stop any super league. But local government may have more, stronger and long forgotten powers. Football Clubs use the name of their towns and cities with the permission of the local council. If Liverpool Council decides it no longer wants Liverpool FC to bear its name, then they could withdraw that right. The club could still exist and play in the new ESL but call itself something else (Red Mersey?) but they could no longer call itself Liverpool. That would be an utterly extraordinary move but maybe even the threat would be something.”
Haha double post, exactly my thoughts.DarkAttraktor wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:29 amalso Mourinho got the sack because apparently he didn't want to take players on the training ground in protest
what a sore loser. he used the whole Super Lague show to make a half-assed political statement so it wouldn't look like he was fired because of his results
Actual football discussion: Chelsea were very impressive in the FA Semi, they did a Mourinho to City. Tuchel has them extremely organized and occasionally dangerous on the counter, even Werner played OK. Match of the weekend for me, was Atalanta v Juve. I love Atalanta, and while they didint play flawlessly, they were very well organized and dangerous in the 2nd half. Very even match, probably a draw was deserved, but Atalanta did a bit of a smash-and-grab at the end. Malinovsky drilled a free kick from about 35 yards out that forced a difficult save from Sczencny and from the resulting corner, the ball popped back out to him and he drilled it and it deflected off someone into the corner. Juve have now dropped out of the UCL spots.Wombatz wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:46 am
of course i hugely enjoyed pep losing, and now i will root even harder for sudden good guys psg (despite them firing my man tüchel) to kick him out of the cl ... "humiliated by kaneless spurs" would also be a fine headline (though pep not winning the cl is top priority, i'm afraid).
from the excellent article: https://www.theguardian.com/football/bl ... -proposalsJuventus president, Andrea Agnelli, used his platform at the Financial Times Business of Football Summit in March last year to question whether a team like theirs deserved entry to Europe’s top club competition. “I have great respect for what Atalanta are doing, but without any international history, and with a great sporting performance, they had direct access to the Champions League,” said Agnelli. “Then, think about Roma, who have contributed in recent years to maintaining Italy’s [Uefa coefficient] ranking, who had one bad season and are out, with all the consequences that brings on an economic level. We need to protect investments.”