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Dínamo Festival - Mattin / Taku Unami / Jean-Luc Guionnet

Dínamo - Festival de música exploratoria - Barcelos

Saturday the 26th, July.

Municipal Library.

Mattin / Taku Unami / Jean-Luc Guionnet

At Dinamo festival's second night and after a performance by Anette Krebs, the festival organisation ask us to leave the auditorium. After some minutes they tell us that we can enter the room "one at a time" leaving an interval between each. I enter second, the auditorium is almost dark, only illuminated by a little lamp on the stage right at Taku Unami's feet. Mattin (who waits after the door) tells me "to participate in this concert, you have to walk in cirles around Taku".

I go down stairs and I see a static body sitting on the right side of the stage. I begun to realize my part and after little time more audience is entering: a girl begins to sing a song at the back of the stage, another one laughs intermittently from the stairs, somebody clap his hands, I see an extended arm with a hand making the sign of the horns. Taku, with his right arm on a sling begins to play his guitar very fast, like a heavy metal guitarist. When he's resting, a girl has to give him a massage on the back, somebody begins to knock on a door while a fake vomit sound is heard from the amphitheater. Jean-Luc Guionnet begins to play from the backstage with his saxophone and somebody calls him shouting, a man on stage with his fist raised, someone is taking pictures of the chair that Mattin should be occupying; there his laptop is amplified and quietened. After a while of circular adherence to this orders we hear somebody saying "What are you doing?" without reply. Later on the question was asked again and it was answered: "Music!!!".

After a while some people neglected their orders, they sat down on the stools and observed the spectacle. The event organizer says, turning his back to the stage, "This concert will only finish when everyone agrees, otherwise it will go on". I feel satisfied with the concert and left the stage, I see Mattin observing from the center of the stall seats. After some time the people that continues to participate decides to manifest saying "I agree". When it was unanimous the concert was considered ended.

What was it that we participated on that period of time?
A routine was broken, a ritual constructed through the use of a new one created for the occasion. While the first is part of the social archetypes that we have to live: everyone waiting for the concert to begin, remaining attentive to what is happening or interacting with the adequate context to that space and when it's our turn, clapping our hands to the interpreters. The second is configured as a revulsive, we observe that there is an order, a command that we can obey or not, but only accepting it we become part of the show. I was curious to see that, mostly, we fulfilled our objective in the most precise manner that we knew; it's possible that we wanted to become part of it, after all it was funny and interesting; the people seem to enjoy themselves. We were part of a different idea of culture and spectacle. A reinterpretation of W. Benjamin by Mattin: "A culture naked from practical utilization and destroyer of law. A culture that can't be defined in terms of intellectual property, because it's intrinsically collective. A culture that is constantly tearing apart any individualistic notion. A culture that tears egos apart, egos that can never recompose themselves to be alone again"(1). And I think that it's interesting to think about our individualistic notion in that moments. There's an identity (in this case Mattin) that gives us some instructions, that command we can understand as "dictatorial", because we couldn't decide our action... After a while we can think in our individual freedoms while we realize our function, our freedoms at the time of improvising over that function... It's possible that an analogy with the freedoms of an improviser exists here. What degree of freedom and directness have the action of the improvisers? Today, certain currents among improvisation had had time to to create an orthodoxy, a series of formal constraints, that don't separate much the role of the spectator walking in circles from the music that loses that great field of action on the caricature of style.

I don't pretend to understand this spectacle as definitive "total art", quite the contrary (quoting Mattin again) I want to understand it as a "unconstituted praxis". I think that the limits of the instructions that Mattin gave us weren't absolute and totally defined, moreover certain internal rules were the ones that compelled us to be careful with our function. The reflection of what happened there makes our comprehension fragile, tends to debate and doubt; that's the wonderful thing for me. The unanimous "agree", keeps the freedom that allows us to finish the game when we want to.

"The cultural industry has the tendency to transform itself in a set of protocols and because of that in irrefutable prophet of what exists. Among the reefs of the fake individualizing news and the manifest truth the cultural industry moves aptly repeating the phenomenon as is, opposing its opacity to knowledge and erecting as an ideal the own phenomenon in its omnipresent continuity"

Max Horkheimer & Theodor Adorno
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Miguel Prado

September 08

Anti-Copyright

(1) Mattin - Anti-CCopyright: hacia una cultura desnuda (http://www.mattin.org/essays/Anti-CCopyright.html, in spanish)

Thanks to Roberto Mallo for the traslation
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first of all much thanks for taking the time to write this


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just wanted to say that my quick reaction was disappointment. Maybe this stems from the way you focus on the analysis of the event & maybe the actual event was more interesting, but a lot of these events centered around Mattin seem to me like they focus more on ideas of how the spectator should be challenged, but in the end don't challenge the spectator all that much.
I mean, why make all these efforts to spoonfeed ideas to an audience that goes to see an experimental concert (& because of that, will probably be willing to participate in or expect something like the event described above) and not challenge the condition itself? On top of that all the instructions and anti-instructions, seem like stating the obvious and like a deadlock between talking about it & doing it. All this from someone who has found more than a bit of Mattin's 'non-musical' work to be quite welcome in the past

of course i wasnt there & indeed it sounds like you had fun participating. but my point is it seems a bit too much like navel-gazing to me. Self-congratulatory maybe in the way it presents a pre-determined analysis (even if not stated by Mattin -as it usually is, it is more or less pre-included by the parameters set by him) and not an open-ended event, ripe for effect and reflection
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Post Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:49 am

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thanks for the report Miguel

sounds like fun, feels like a hippie thing ?

hmm

aren't we all preaching the already convinced here ?

there are no scandals anymore

not like the première of Jarry's Ubu Roi, although there was a very small audience at the time

Maybe we need more scandals, even on a small scale
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Post Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:38 am

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skrobek wrote:Maybe we need more scandals, even on a small scale


No, we don't. We need things like Sachiko M did on last Amplify or Cage, Brown, Tudor did assembling Williams Mix.

Work.
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Something is happening here...
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Post Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:35 am

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yonhosago wrote:
skrobek wrote:Maybe we need more scandals, even on a small scale


No, we don't. We need things like Sachiko M did on last Amplify or Cage, Brown, Tudor did assembling Williams Mix.

Work.


I don´t understand very well, probably we understand the concept of working in a different way.

skrobek wrote:Something is happening here...

I wish
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Post Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:35 pm

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it fails me why some people think of this bullshit as provocative in some way.
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Post Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:39 pm

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grisha wrote:it fails me why some people think of this bullshit as provocative in some way.


well for one thing it provoked you into saying it's bullshit !
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Post Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:23 am

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well if that's the intention...

all in all, if you've seen die hard with a vengeance... where there is this part at the beginning where jeremy irons sends bruce willis into a black neighbourhood, stripped to his underpants and a board which has something like "i hate niggers" written on it. well it's like that. you can call it provocative, but to me, this provocative doesn't amount to much, to say the most.
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Post Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:40 am

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wow ! I don't think this has anything to do with this...

anyway, I never called it provocative, nor did the musicians involved. The fact that it's not self-proclaimed provocation but is received as such by the audience is kinda interesting...

fwiw, Sachiko M who was mentionned here as someone who works did an installation a couple years ago where her sampler was playing a continuous sine wave in the middle of the room...

... I'd like to have played with it :)

Members of the audience become the instrument ?
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Post Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:34 am

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well, you wouldn't exactly call it musically compelling, would you? so it must have some other intentions, would be my guess. should i see it as a theatrical performance of sorts? i think (and mattin, or anyone involved, doesn't have to say it for it to be so) that the intention is for it to be "thought provoking" in some way. so i really merely echoed yonhosago's post, who (i think) is saying that a musically compelling performance will usually make a more "thought provoking" one than mattin's spectacles, which come off as rather crude and uneffective provocations, completely lacking in nuance, disrespectful of the audience, who, mattin seems to think, should be "banged on the head" to "get" some sort of a "point" he's trying to make (and yes, i had a misfortune of witnessing one. it looked particularly ridiculous coming after rowe's set). that is what they look like, even if you chose not to call them that (and it's quite natural you won't, don't you think so? i never heard someone calling his provocation a provocation).

as for myself, i actually find them amusing, which i guess isn't so bad, after all:

http://vimeo.com/1853115
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Reductionist Whitehouse


thinking of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRbWvLKWS1k&feature=related
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Post Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:36 pm

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It is probably a matter of looking Improvisation in a different way.
I understand that their actions don´t interest you from a musical viewpoint.
I think that we need to differentiate clearly is not the same that Rowe , it would absurd to expect something similar for the two.
I think that Rowe wants to take improvisation as much as possible but within certain musical parameters, for its part Mattin I think he wants extrapolated to the audience directly, to those who hear the disks, to the streets .. I may be wrong, and it is logical that it should be understood as provocative (but I do not think that this is he intent) but I understand it as an improvisation beyond a certain musical orthodoxies but has an impact on musical aspects of the same music in this case EAI
or whatever you want to call.
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skrobek wrote:"Why do you respect the artist when there's nothing going on ?"


that's the point, some of us don't.
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Post Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:33 pm

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it doesn't matter, you're still part of the audience in the broad sense, either at the gig, hearing the records or discussing on the internet...

"Respect" in the sense of sitting quietly and not talking while someone's standing there, which is precisely the questions Whitehouse were asking...

The difference is Mattin is not delighting in the audience's submission but trying to find ways of breaking it down, taking art "to the street" as Miguel said...

FWIW, I'm much more intereseted in the work performed at Dynamo than the kind of happenings featured on the clip. The Dynamo work is strangely reminiscent of a teacher's work in a way, giving basic instructions that could eventually make the people involved independent within the performance...
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teachers impart knowledge. Mattin doesn't have much of interest to impart IMO.

anyway, I really didn't want to get involved on this thread, so I'm going to stop now.
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skrobek wrote:FWIW, I'm much more intereseted in the work performed at Dynamo than the kind of happenings featured on the clip. The Dynamo work is strangely reminiscent of a teacher's work in a way, giving basic instructions that could eventually make the people involved independent within the performance...


Funny, while I find his performance at West Nile gets somewhat boring as it goes on, that description of his Dynamo performance sounds pretty annoying from the get-go.

If I go to a concert, I want to hear music. If I wanted to be involved in a piece of interactive performance art, I'd go do that instead. And I do believe Mattin makes good music when that is his aim. Gora is amazing, the discs with Malfatti are amazing, in moments I greatly enjoy his duos with Tim Barnes. I'm even a sucker for the songbook series (though I never could track down a copy of volume 2 for myself). I could go on listing excellent records. So why perform in this manner?

Nobody's learning anything from these happenings (speaking on a grand scale that is... I mean, I'm sure some 15 year old kid might stumble into a performance like this and have his view shattered regarding what can be performative art - but that doesn't count.). This is old news. People gave up staging these kind of happenings decades ago because they had communicated all that they could communicate with them. The message was thoroughly expressed and the world said "ok, now why do we care?" Why do it again unless you can bring something extra to the table?
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Post Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:17 pm

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RFKorp wrote:I'm sure some 15 year old kid might stumble into a performance like this and have his view shattered regarding what can be performative art - but that doesn't count.


Why ?

RFKorp wrote:People gave up staging these kind of happenings decades ago because they had communicated all that they could communicate with them. The message was thoroughly expressed and the world said "ok, now why do we care?" Why do it again (...)


because the world said "now why do we care" at the time ?
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Post Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:24 pm

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i don't think you read the second question properly.
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