Extended Techniques and Such for Trumpet and French Horn?

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Extended Techniques and Such for Trumpet and French Horn?

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I record quite a bit, and generally for trumpet I just do very insanely high-pitched noises and lowercase rattles; for the horn (which I'm so much better at, mind you, so maybe place your focus here?) I just seem to play very delicate drones, often staying in the Bb concert scale to promote a sense of clean-cut minimalism with very soft tones, I guess. However, I'd really really enjoy being able to have much more diverse sets of sounds available to my disposal. Literally, any ideas are welcome; however I tend to enjoy extremes, so either thick layers of noise or crackling pops or high or very low or very soft or hard tones would probably be more my thing.

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watch this space:

http://www.fraufraulein.com/anne/the-ex ... es-project

Anne has recorded herself playing many extended techniques on French Horn and pretty much just needs to upload them. I'll post back here when that happens, probably very soon.

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Thank you.

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I saw an interesting performance a while ago, where a horn player had pulled out the valve slides, and inserted lengths of hose in their place. As well as the pitch effect of the different lengths, the tubes had different timbres, and with them pointing in different directions, there was a spatial element as well.

I've also heard someone play a baritone horn half-full of water, which produced very nice crackly bubbling sounds (although you probably need an old instrument to try that on).

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ellipsis wrote:I saw an interesting performance a while ago, where a horn player had pulled out the valve slides, and inserted lengths of hose in their place. As well as the pitch effect of the different lengths, the tubes had different timbres, and with them pointing in different directions, there was a spatial element as well.
Lots of people do things sorta like this--Tom Djll attaches a bell to a length of tube emerging from a valve on his trumpet; Okura plays a length of tube; Choi Sun Bae plays a length of tube that he spins around over his head.
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faster wrote: Choi Sun Bae plays a length of tube that he spins around over his head.
Djll does this as well..


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A fun one I learned from Choi Sun Bae is holding the trumpet upside-down and blowing across the holes at the bottom of the valves like a flute. Fingering the valves makes it into three tiny slide-whistles.

A lot of people sometimes put reed mouthpieces on brass instruments. YOu can also stretch the cut end of a balloon over the lead-pipe and blow through it while pinching it.

Another great trick is to take your trumpet or french horn and run over it with a car or truck. Probably sounds pretty extended.
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faster wrote:
Another great trick is to take your trumpet or french horn and run over it with a car or truck. Probably sounds pretty extended.

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http://vimeo.com/24636176


Mostly Djll speaking, but some nice footage of him exploring "extended techniques"...
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We used to do the flute thing for fun in concert band.

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