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Circle Line #3
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:51 pm
by Dan Warburton
Off we go again (and this one's quite long, hope you enjoy the ride? Here's the first half dozen to get you on your way)
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Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:44 am
by Wombatz
i need help! i recognize gene wilder, woody allen, sylvester stallone and godzilla. so wilder is the psychiatrist from the woody allen sex film. while allen has stepped into scorsese territory ... so is that new york stories? no, allen is too young. the guy on the right looks like the guy on the left in 3. or wait, the guy on the left looks like the guy on the right in 3. so it's bananas because that had a bit part for sylvester. happily the latter's early filmography outside of rocky is quickly scanned and i come up with paradise alley for 3 ... and then i'm done. no idea which godzilla this is ... or, looking more closely, that's not even godzilla, maybe some abominable ragman fighting godzlilla ... and i cannot recall any of the actors, though the man in 5 looks like i should.
we could try alerting the lurkers from the main warburton's movie guide thread ...
Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:09 pm
by Dan Warburton
Oh, I've tried. But as the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water but you can't get it to post on IHF

I'll try again to get Henrik to chip in, we've done a lot of these together.. In the meantime, Google is your friend: googling Allen and Wilder will give you the title of 1, Allen and Stallone together will give you 2. Who's in 3? You need to know the guy on the left. And 4 is not Godzilla, it's KATAHDIN MONSTER (and that's a huge clue). You will need to know the names of both people in 5 to flush out the name of the (quite rare) film (I reviewed it here early last year). I also wrote up 4 back in 2020 but the pic has now disappeared; and I reviewed 3 twice, once in 2013 and again in 2020. I can post alternative pics of the films if that's a help
Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:25 am
by Wombatz
i actually did (attempt to) identify the first 3, only it's hidden in the prose and you, sir, are more formally minded.
1. Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex* (*But Were Afraid to Ask) by Woody Allen
2. Bananas by The Selsame, carrying Stallone (and the other guy?) over into
3. Paradise Alley, by The Latter
so the monster gives me a film titled the prophecy by john frankenheimer. scanning his filmography (wow that is hit and miss surely) with a focus on the 70s, i stumble across the impossible object from 1973, with alan bates, whom i've indeed seen before, and one dominique sanda, and google gives me the following poster:
and that looks like the girl in 6! so i need a turn of the century period film from the 70s with her. that's actually quite an interesting filmography, some of which i've seen, and her face looks memorable too, so it must be the old age. anyway, the winner is
Steppenwolf (1974) by Fred Haines. wow max von sydow and with music by george gruntz, never heard of that. except that you wrote:
"A brave attempt to film an unfilmable book, as frustrating and flawed as Cronenberg's Naked Lunch, and - no disrespect to Messrs Shore & Coleman - with a better soundtrack. George Gruntz's spidery psychedelic bebop works surprisingly well (it's fun to see the perennially weird Pierre Clementi miming to Charlie Mariano), more so than the – evidently - dated visual special effects. The Gilliamesque animation sequence is just about potty enough to convince, but the Mati Klarwein Magic Theatre and the garish colour filters are embarrassingly amateurish to modern eyes. (That said, those old Doctor Who episodes used to scare the pants off me in 1974, but it's hard in 2013 trying to convince your 14 year old kid that the original version of Tron is way better than the remake.) Shame, because Harry Haller could just be the best performance I've ever seen by Max Van Sydow, and Dominique Sanda – surely the most intriguing mouth in cinema history – perfect as Hermine."
i just pretended to have read the book in school, so here's my chance.
Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:53 pm
by Dan Warburton
You see, I
knew you'd do it!

Bravo -
Woody Allen's
All you (etc etc), and then his
Bananas with
Sly Stallone, whose directorial debut
Paradise Alley is great (it was Leos Carax's pick of the year when he wrote for
Cahiers, which was how I found it), with
Armand Assante who's also in
Prophecy, directed by
John Frankenheimer, as was
Story of a Love Story (aka
L'impossible objet), with Alan Bates and
Dominique Sanda, who's also in
Steppenwolf, and Mr
Clementi is the link to..
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Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 3:31 am
by Wombatz
(traveling this week ... dunno if i'll get the necessary downtimes)
Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:00 am
by Dan Warburton
Just in case anyone is still out there (testing testing one two three? is there really only me? hee hee), Mr Clementi is the link into 7 (he's pretty easy to spot anyway), our own Lao Tsu Ben reviewed 8 at the beginning of 2021, so if you find that you'll be able to figure out the link back to 7 and forward to 9. I think 10 is quite well known, and the link into 11 is in the picture. Anyone who's seen 12 should be able to recognise it. And if I can prevail upon Henrik to post here again, he'd know the link from 11 to 12. Hope this might encourage others to have a go!
Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:07 pm
by Wombatz
ok so if i stare at pierre clementi's fortunately slim filmography i stumble across benjamin, a 1968 film by michel deville. it's not the same actress, but since 8 has eddie constantine in it, i google deville against him and come up with lucky jo from 1964. between karl marx and blood and mao's little red book, the next two look very godard. presuming eddie is the link, 9 is not alphaville so it must be germany year 90. and 10 clearly la chinoise. if the link is in the picture it must be the actress, juliet berto. she's in a few rivette movies, iprobably one of those, but which? the image looks wrong for that. and maybe she looks older? neige? i think i've seen that and it was pretty good. the hairstyle fits. hey that has eddie constantine, too, so there would have been a shortcut. 12: i've no idea. they drink coffee in spain?
Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:13 am
by Dan Warburton
Welcome back! And you're spot on as far as you go...
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Steppenwolf (Fred Haines, 1974) with
Pierre Clémenti, who's also in
7
Benjamin, ou les mémoires d'un puceau (1968), directed by
Michel Deville, whose
8
Lucky Jo (1964) starred
Eddie Constantine, who's also in
9
Allemagne 90 neuf zéro (1991), directed by
Jean-Luc Godard, whose
10
La Chinoise (1967) starred
Juliet Berto, whose
11
Neige (1981) featured.....
to help you on your way, here's an alternative pic for 12 (you still need to find the link from 11 to 12, but IMDb could help you, unless Henrik drops by and helps you out):
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Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:16 am
by Dan Warburton
here are the next three...
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Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:50 pm
by Wombatz
ah that's the limits of control, i've seen that. the link, wiki tells me, is jean-francois stevenin. and 13 is benjamin button, i've seen that too and surprisingly enjoyed it. the link being tilda swinton. then i'm out again ... colorwise 14 might be a fincher movie but i don't recognize the actor. the actor in 15 seems to want to ring a bell but i draw a blank ...
Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:40 am
by Dan Warburton
Right as far as you go. Sure somebody out there can ID the actor in 14 (you can too, when I tell you he's the star of Rolling Stone magazine's #1 Greatest TV Show of All Time

)
Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:55 am
by Dan Warburton
When you ID the guy in 15 you can move on to..
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Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:21 am
by MRS
Gallo in a Ferrara movie I can't recall?
Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 12:21 am
by Dan Warburton
Yessir, and here's an alt.pic from the same movie

Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:34 am
by Wombatz
hey, 16 is that legend of kaspar hauser movie with vincent gallo ... i've seen that at the cinema, great fun. and 16 is the proper kaspar hauser movie ... only i'm traveling again (this time, for proper holiday reasons), i'll wrap up what's left on the weekend. btw, we saw steppenwolf on a beamer yesterday, pretty bonkers, even if the whole bourgeois vs. anti-bourgeois (but what?) theme and the carnivalesque/fellinesq aspects wear you down a bit in the end. The music wears you done more quickly, wish sun ra had done the job. amazing performance by max von sydow repeating his standard best performance, with any other lead the thing would have fallen apart. now one of us has to read the book (urgh) to see how much drug-induced surrealism is already in there. thanks for the rec!
Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:32 pm
by Dan Warburton
Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:34 pm
by Dan Warburton
oops posted these next two without numbering them
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Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:41 pm
by Dan Warburton
so far so good! as the world's biggest Sopranos fan Henrik isn't taking part in this enjoyable waste of time and wasn't around to ID James Gandolfini in 14, I'll fill in a gap or two
11 Neige (1981) featured Jean-François Stévenin, who's also in
12 The Limits of Control (Jim Jarmusch, 2009), which featured Tilda Swinton who's also in
13 The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (David Fincher, 2008), with Brad Pitt who's also in
14 True Romance (Tony Scott, 1993), as was Christopher Walken who's also in
15 The Funeral (Abel Ferrara, 1996) with Vincent Gallo, who's also in
16 The Legend of Kaspar Hauser (Davide Manuli, 2012).
17 Here's The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser (1974), directed by
..and there's your next link
Re: Circle Line #3
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 2:34 pm
by Wombatz
... directed by werner herzog, so after some deliberation
18 is the selfsame’s salt and fire. that was an awful film.
20 is to live and die in l.a. and 21 is 24 hour party people, both of which i’ve seen and thankfully you picked pretty easy stills ... the connection between them is ... huh? robby müller!
which reminds me we saw radio on over the holidays, super interesting as it's wenders-influenced but quite a few scenes absolutely prefigure slightly later jarmusch scenes.
i should be able to get 19 from here, especially since both actors look familiar, probably something with dafoe in it which limits this to a couple of hundred movies or so ...