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Iranian Film

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My wife is currently working through her Masters thesis, where she's looking at how colonial apprpriation of cultural relics (the Cyrus Cylinder in this case) can have an impact on contemporary politics. Because of this, she's becoming quite immersed in reading fiction by Iranian authors to get a wider feel for the culture.

Does anyone have any recommendations for good Iranian film, either fiction or documentary, that would be worth watching. We've seen Persepolis... :lol:

(I had a quick search on the forum but couldn't find any similar threads. Point them out if they exist!)

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Abbas Kiarostami is the most famous, he's fantastic. Close-Up and A Taste of Cherry may be the best known, but there are a ton worth seeing. there's quite a bit of info about him on the web, Jonathan Rosenbaum has done a lot of eloquent championing of his work.

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Forugh Farrokhzad's The House Is Black is a brilliant but horrifying short film about a leper colony. Difficult to find a physical copy but available on ubuweb here: http://www.ubu.com/film/farrokhzad_house.html

Abbas Kiarostami is currently the most well-known Iranian director. His films are extraordinarily subtle, sometimes very beautiful. I'm not a fan of the more conceptual or experimental works, and most of his newer films don't do much for me. The Wind Will Cary Us is probably the one I would recommend for starters, then work your way backwards through some of the others (especially Through the Olive Trees, Close Up and Taste of Cherry).

edit: somehow missed Jon's post above - think we pretty much agree on Kiarostami though.

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i like Kiarostami a lot when they're not coasting on the art-house circuit (A Taste Of Cherry, most of the stuff since 2000). Close-Up is probably my favorite, closely followed by The Wind Will Carry Us and Under The Olive Trees. Crimson Gold is also surprisingly good, though perhaps that can be chalked up to it being the one time Panahi has had a decent cinematographer.

you can get The House Is Black on Netflix. it's wonderful. Ebrahim Golestan's The Crown Jewels Of Iran is great too.
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Forugh Farrokhzad - The House is Black (1963)

I said, if I had wings of a dove I would fly away and be at rest.
I would go far away and take refuge in the desert.
I would hasten my escape from the windy storm and tempest.
For I have seen misery and wickedness on Earth.

The Universe is pregnant with inertia
and has given birth to time.

Where would I escape from your face?
And where would I go from your pressence?
If I hang on to the wings of the morning breeze
and reside in the deep of the sea,
your hand will still weigh on me.
You have made me drunk with indecision.
How awesome are your deeds!
How awesome are your deeds!

I speak of the bitterness of my soul.
I speak of the bitterness of my soul.
When I was silent my life was rotting
from my silent screams all day long.

Remember that my life is wind.
I have become the pelican of the desert,
the owl of the ruins,
and like a sparrow I am sitting alone on the roof.

I am poured out like water
(as those who have long been dead).
On my eyelids is the shadow of death.
On my eyelids is the shadow of death.

Leave me, leave me, for my days are but a dream.
Leave me before I set out for the land of no return.
The land of infinite darkness.

--------------

O God, don’t entrust the life of your dove to the wild beast.

O God, remember that my life is wind
and you have given me a time of idleness,
and around me a song of happiness,
the sound of the windmill,
and the brightness of the light have vanished.

Lucky are those who are harvesting now,
and their hands are picking sheaves of wheat.

Let’s listen to the soul who sings in the remote desert.
The one who sighs and stretches his hands out saying,
"Alas, my wounds have numbed my spirit".

O, the time-forgotten one,
dressing yourself in red, and wearing golden ornaments,
anointing your eyes with kohl,
remember you have made yourself beautiful in vain,
for a song in the remote desert,
and your friends who have denigrated you.

--------------

Alas, for the day is fading, the evening shadows are stretching.
Our being, like a cage full of birds,
is filled with moans of captivity.
And none among us knows how long he will last.

The harvest season passed, the summer season will come to an end,
and we did not find deliverance.
Like doves we cry for justice…
and there is none.
We wait for light
and darkness reigns.
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Another vote for Kiarostami, easily the greatest film director in activity. In the 70's, Kurosawa himself acknowledged being impressed by the man's work. Taste of Cherry (1997) is the first film of his I saw and is still probably my favorite (the very last few minutes are incredibly powerful but no spoilers...). My advice: try to watch absolutely everything you can get your hands on. I haven't seen a bunch of his early short films, neither have I seen the last one featuring...huh... Juliette Binoche, who's the main reason why I skipped it (I know I'll watch it one day though).

Other Iranian film directors of note: Mohsen Makhmalbaf (another heavy weight), Makhmalbaf's daughter, Samira, is also a director (see The blackboard (2000)), Jafar Panahi (The circle is pretty good), Bahman Ghobadi... But one way or the other, Kiarostami is a father for them all.

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On further investigation it seems Facets have released The House is Black on DVD along with a couple of other Iranian short films (available on amazon).

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Kiarostami for sure, but I would also strongly recommend Jafar Panahi. I'd seen three his movies: "The White Balloon", "The Mirror", "The Circle" and all are good. But "The Circle" should be most interesting for you as it is a strong commentary about social situation in the country.
As for Ghobadi, "No One Knows About Persian Cats" is very interesting half-documentary about music underground in Teheran.
And there is also Rafi Pitts whose "The Hunter" is unusual, unsettling, one of the best movies of the year for me.

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Excellent! Thanks for all these. Keep them coming!

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The only Kiarostami I've seen is The wind will carry us. This would be a perfect place to start for anyone interested in exploring Iranian cinema. The film rewards repeated viewing too I think it, for me at least, was a puzzle and kept me thinking about for days after. I took me awhile to unravel it. Most importantly, for me, Kiarostami conveys complex ideas through very simple and often unexpected ways.
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I wasn't so keen on Panahi's The Circle.
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leroysghost wrote:i like Kiarostami a lot when he's not coasting on the art-house circuit (A Taste Of Cherry, most of his 2000's stuff). And Life Goes On... is probably my favorite, closely followed by Close-Up and The Wind Will Carry Us.
I warmly second And Life Goes On.... I can't really disagree about his 2000's films since I have not seen much but you can't pass on Ten.
Also for me essential viewings : Mossafer, Khane-ye doust kodjast? (where is the friend's home?) , Mashgh-e Shab(homeworks) (this last one is a bit more difficult to catch though)

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I thought 'Ten' was pretty weak, when compared with something like 'the Wind Will Carry Us'.

Other favourites include Mohsen Makhmalbaf 's 'Salaam Cinema' ( :shock: ), 'Smell of Jasmine, Fragrance of Camphour' and, although made by an ex-pat, Amin Naderi's 'Marathon'

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It's pay day so I had a cruise of Amazon and plumped for the following as a starter.

No One Knows about Persian Cats
Taste Of Cherry/10 On Ten
Blackboards
The Circle
The Wind Will Carry Us

Only 'Taste Of Cherry/10 On Ten' was more than a fiver!

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I was wondering if you had watched any of this and if yes, what are your opinions? (I contributed earlier to this thread as "3um").

In the meantime there was all this talk because Panahi and Mohammad Rasoulov got sentenced and that might bring some more attention to Iranian cinema (for example this blog-a-thon).
Just two days ago new movie by Asghar Farhadi Nader and Simin, A Separation (director of Fireworks Wedneday and About Elly - both highly recommended) was premiered at Berlinale and I've read two positive reviews already.

As for my personal experience: I've watched It's Winter by Pitts, it's the one preceding The Hunter. And it's another good one, very balanced realistic/poetic study of alienation.

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Seen both of Rasoulof's feature films in festivals. Both are pretty lush and poetic allegories. Neither situate themselves in any kind of recognizable social reality (unlike, the Circle, for instance)--so it's a bit funny for him to get a 20 year ban from filmmaking anyway.

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trzyuem wrote:I was wondering if you had watched any of this and if yes, what are your opinions? (I contributed earlier to this thread as "3um").
Yes, sorry, I should've come back to the thread with some thoughts. Thanks for the prompt. Some brief thoughts.

No One Knows about Persian Cats - I enjoyed the music very much but, to be honest, I would've preferred it more as a music documentary than with the narrative elements as I thought it fell between the two stools in places. Felt a bit Blues Brothers to me, strolling around the city and picking up band members.
Taste Of Cherry - Haunting and thought-provoking. Put me in quite a melancholy mood for some time. The end seemingly being a bit rushed is the only criticism I can think of.
Blackboards - I felt a bit lost in this one, not really knowing a huge amount about the specifics of the backstory (or, rather, not realising there was a backstory until too near the end), and it took on a (perhaps intentional/perhaps not) absurdity which I think detracted from the overall impact. Some people have related this to a Beckett-like removal of context and repetition, which I can see, but I think there needs to be more maturity before it achieves this fully.
The Circle - Good in parts. I think it was let down by the trite need to bring the 'circle' to a closure at the end along with some not so good acting but a very interesting insight into female experience in Iran.
The Wind Will Carry Us - I liked this a lot, although I'm not sure why. Ghostly, in a lot of ways, with strange narrative elements intertwined. Again, a Beckett-like repetition but employed in a much easier way. Beautifully photgraphed.

I also got Samira Makhmalbaf's At Five in the Afternoon which I enjoyed a lot more than Blackboards, mainly for the gossamer quality and believability of the main character.

I would also mention that being forced to watched Samira Makhmalbaf's insufferable ponderings on existence is one of the reasons that I'm increasingly wary of watching director interview extras.

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Samira Makhmalbaf - The apple
Samira Makhmalbaf - Blackboard
Mohsen Makhmalbaf - Salaam Cinema
Hana Makhmalbaf - Buda as sharm foru rikht
Babak Payami - Secret Ballot
Jafar Panahi - Offside
Kambuzia Partovi - Border café

Anyway, most Makhmalbaf's family movies are great.

And an well documented article on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_of_Iran

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Gaendaal wrote: The Circle - Good in parts. I think it was let down by the trite need to bring the 'circle' to a closure at the end along with some not so good acting but a very interesting insight into female experience in Iran.
After reading this I had realized I was so moved by the story that I didn't care for acting so much.
Gaendaal wrote: The Wind Will Carry Us - I liked this a lot, although I'm not sure why. Ghostly, in a lot of ways, with strange narrative elements intertwined. Again, a Beckett-like repetition but employed in a much easier way. Beautifully photgraphed.
So would you say that it's something like an "atmosphere" you like about this (and/or are looking for)? If yes, then maybe you should try Color of Paradise by Majid Majidi.

And in other news: kind of rainfall of prizes for Nader And Simin, A Separation at Berlinale.

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