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I'm trying to find copies of defunct journals/magazines on free improvisation. I've searched public and academic libraries, including through inter-library loan, and have not been able to locate the following, in particular:

Musics, 1975-1980
Rubberneck, 1985-2000
The Grackle, 1976-1979

Any help in finding these journals would be much appreciated.

David Toop said on FB a while ago that there are plans to digitize 'Musics', but it might be worth messaging him on there and seeing how that is coming along if you're in a rush.

Red wrote:I'm trying to find copies of defunct journals/magazines on free improvisation.

May I ask why? Are you looking for reviews of recordings, or something more theoretical (which could be 1) discussions of the practice / ethics of improvisation with the musicians themselves, or 2) situating free improvisation within a wider framework of contemporary music or 3) a discussion of the idea of improvisation in a wider social context)?
And what do you mean by "free improvisation"? Are you talking old school / roots (60s/70s, post free jazz), second generation (Jon mentioned Toop, for example), or later developments (post-Polwechsel/Shed, onkyo, EAI, etc)?

jon abbey wrote:David Toop said on FB a while ago that there are plans to digitize 'Musics', but it might be worth messaging him on there and seeing how that is coming along if you're in a rush.

Thanks for the tip; I'll get in touch with him.

Dan Warburton wrote:

Red wrote:I'm trying to find copies of defunct journals/magazines on free improvisation.

May I ask why? Are you looking for reviews of recordings, or something more theoretical (which could be 1) discussions of the practice / ethics of improvisation with the musicians themselves, or 2) situating free improvisation within a wider framework of contemporary music or 3) a discussion of the idea of improvisation in a wider social context)?
And what do you mean by "free improvisation"? Are you talking old school / roots (60s/70s, post free jazz), second generation (Jon mentioned Toop, for example), or later developments (post-Polwechsel/Shed, onkyo, EAI, etc)?

Sure: I'm specifically curious about the nature of the instrument and its use in, generally, post-1960 experimental electro-acoustic improvised music (say, beginning with Group Ongaku and AMM through onkyo, EAI, lowercase, etc.). I'm interested in both the practice of improvisation and its relationship with contemporary music, but my focus is on the instrument (qua "sound source," or as "composed"/improvised during performance, e.g.). The topic may become more focused w/r/t to the music I examine, and while certainly some of the music covered in these journals is outside of my central area of research, I don't want to miss a relevant reference that might make interesting connections (e.g., from what I can gather The Grackle seems to be more on free jazz and '70s African-American free improvisation).

Red wrote:

jon abbey wrote:David Toop said on FB a while ago that there are plans to digitize 'Musics', but it might be worth messaging him on there and seeing how that is coming along if you're in a rush.

Thanks for the tip; I'll get in touch with him.

Apparently there are no current plans to digitize Musics. NYPL appears to have Rubberneck.

Red wrote:I'm trying to find copies of defunct journals/magazines on free improvisation. I've searched public and academic libraries, including through inter-library loan, and have not been able to locate the following, in particular:

Musics, 1975-1980
Rubberneck, 1985-2000
The Grackle, 1976-1979

Any help in finding these journals would be much appreciated.

Not defunct but an online resource of some important eai musiciains/movements... http://erstwords.blogspot.com/

The jazz institut darmstadt should have some or most (or maybe all) of that stuff - I know I had at least some volumes of Rubberneck in my hands there. I remember they had a service years ago that allows you to get photocopies of single articles. But that was pricey. No idea if they still do that, or how they handle it in detail these days.

http://www.jazzinstitut.de/us.htm

J.F. wrote:The jazz institut darmstadt should have some or most (or maybe all) of that stuff - I know I had at least some volumes of Rubberneck in my hands there. I remember they had a service years ago that allows you to get photocopies of single articles. But that was pricey. No idea if they still do that, or how they handle it in detail these days.

http://www.jazzinstitut.de/us.htm

Thanks -- indeed, they do have a goodly amount of relevant stuff. I am currently procuring single articles of Musics via inter-library loan. I have yet to locate:

Microphone (1972)