Reissue this!

jon abbey · Post by **jon abbey** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:19 am

Jesse wrote:http://www.efi.group.shef.ac.uk/labels/ ... 20012.html

the Chronoscope one is long OOP, I sold mine for something like $60 or $70 on eBay a year or two ago.

Jesse · Post by **Jesse** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:23 am

OOPs.

fearandpanic · Post by **fearandpanic** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:31 am

They should reissue it with Bailey's suggested tagline,

Karyobin: Whitey Free Jazz

More of Tony Oxley's music should be in print: Ichnos (RCA) especially, but also The Baptised Traveller and Four Compositions for Sextet (both CBS). The latter two were reissued on CD about ten or fifteen years ago, but I'm sure they're unavailable again. That's what you get for issuing music on major labels who couldn't give a fuck about your music.

J.F. · Post by **J.F.** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:37 am

Spontaneous Music Ensemble - Oliv
(read about it nearly 20 years ago, and since then never had a chance to listen to a single note of it).

Out of the historical free jazz stuff from Europe, that's probably the one I'd be most interested in!

Reissue this!

fearandpanic · Post by **fearandpanic** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:36 am

Hmm, that came out on Polydor in 1969. Not heard it either. Short piece about it here (makes it sound a bit dodgy, acutally, "A strange mix of minimalism and freak-folk"!):

http://destination-out.com/?cat=45

faster · Post by **faster** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:02 am

fearandpanic wrote:They should reissue it with Bailey's suggested tagline,

Karyobin: Whitey Free Jazz

Ha!

user_4664 · Post by **user_4664** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:56 am

Back in olden days I had a lp featuring Marion Brown and pianist Elliot Schwartz. I've never seen this on disc and would like to re-visit it.

martin · Post by **martin** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:51 am

There is hope that more FMP music will be released outside Atavistic's Unheard Music Series. The German jazzwerkstatt label started to reissue FMP stuff last year, but up to now those have been recordings previously available on CD. In a few weeks there will be a rerelease of two FMP LPs as a 2-CD set (Ulrich Gumpert Workshop Band).

Dohol · Post by **Dohol** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:23 pm

There's a lot of stuff on FMP that begs for re-release. Not so much the free jazz stuff, but things like the Malfatti Wittwer stuff or Hans Reichels first release, the Kowald-Guy duo..

In fact, I have this very moment, the LP jacket of The Kowald/Guy thing ( Paintings it's called..) and there's a bunch of stuff listed that I always wanted to hear.

skrobek · Post by **skrobek** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:00 pm

MASAYUKI TAKAYANAGI - The Smile I Love (JINYA B-03)
- Pulsation (King Record K28P6244)
- Lukewarm position (JINYA Disc)
- El Pulso (JINYA Disc B-04)

TAKU SUGIMOTO - Italia (A Bruit Secret)

JOJO & JUNKO - Duo (Alchemy)

JUNKO - Sleeping Beauty (Elevage de Poussiere)

TETUZI AKIYAMA - Relator

skrobek · Post by **skrobek** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:13 pm

oh yeah and :

Charles GAYLE 'Solo in Japan' (PSF)

Charles GAYLE 'Ancient of Days' (Knitting factory)

Lee Konitz - 'Solo in Japan' (PSF)

Dohol · Post by **Dohol** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:19 pm

You know, not to sound discouraging or anything...I really don't think those Gayle discs are worth reissuing...

fearandpanic · Post by **fearandpanic** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:51 pm

Dohol wrote:There's a lot of stuff on FMP that begs for re-release. the Kowald-Guy duo.. ...

A good chunk of that duo was reisued on the (fucking great) Kowald & Co. Bass Duets CD (FMP CD102). About 25 minutes of it is given over to the Paintings LP, but it'd be good to have it reissued as it was. Duos with Barre Phillips and Maarten Altena make that CD a real knockout, though.

skrobek wrote:TETUZI AKIYAMA - Relator

Definitely, and Sugimoto's Opposite too.

Dan Warburton · Post by **Dan Warburton** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:48 am

fearandpanic wrote:Hmm, that came out on Polydor in 1969. Not heard it either. Short piece about it here (makes it sound a bit dodgy, acutally, "A strange mix of minimalism and freak-folk"!):

http://destination-out.com/?cat=45

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John Stevens ? Spontaneous Music Ensemble (aka ?Oliv?)
Kenny Wheeler (fh), Trevor Watts (as), Johnny Dyani (b), John Stevens (perc), Maggie Nicols (voc), Pepi Lemer (voc), Carolann Nicholls (voc). Rec. by Eddie Offord at Advision Studio, London, February 7th, 1969.
Waiting for Giorgio 14?02 unissued
add Derek Bailey (g), Peter Lemer (p)
Waiting for Giorgio 22?50
Oliv I (Stevens/Nicols) 19?33
Marmalade 608008/Polydor 2384 009 (lp)
all out except Watts, Dyani, Stevens, Nicols
Oliv II (Stevens/Nicols) 16?02
Marmalade 608008/Polydor 2384 009 (lp)
7.5ips mono copy of Waiting for Giorgio (short take) + Oliv II: C577/111, 7.5ips st. copy of Waiting for Giorgio (long take): C577/112. The two (very different) versions of Waiting for Giorgio were recorded by the ensemble whilst waiting for producer Giorgio Gomelsky to arrive at the studio but they are partly composed. The tapes held at the NSA suffer from distortion in places but the masters may be unaffected. PolyGram may have one or more unissued takes of Oliv as the issued Oliv II was actually the third take of this piece. Brief notes by John Stevens, Giorgio Gomelsky and Eddie Offord. Reviewed in Jazz Monthly 09/69, by Graham Boatfield in Jazz Journal (8/70) p32, by Richard Williams (briefly) in MM 27/6/70 p26 & MM 2/8/69 p18. Jak Kilby took photographs at this session.

Definitely one I'd like to hear, though it doesn't sound like free-folk to me (even if it did that would be reason enough to reissue it, given the interest in free folk today).. I'm a huge fan of the SME + vocalist line ups, whether we're talking Maggie Nicols or Julie Tippetts.

Dan Warburton · Post by **Dan Warburton** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:55 am

Skrobek wrote:MASAYUKI TAKAYANAGI - The Smile I Love (JINYA B-03)
- Pulsation (King Record K28P6244)
- Lukewarm position (JINYA Disc)
- El Pulso (JINYA Disc B-04)

TAKU SUGIMOTO - Italia (A Bruit Secret)

JOJO & JUNKO - Duo (Alchemy)

JUNKO - Sleeping Beauty (Elevage de Poussiere)

TETUZI AKIYAMA - Relator

Do you actually have all these Takayanagis, Julian, or is this just a want list? (If you do own them, we should talk again!)

So Sleeping Beauty sold out? I'm amazed..

Dan Warburton · Post by **Dan Warburton** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:59 am

Afflicted Man's Musica Box, United Dairies UD12 (UK) is one I'd like to see back out. (No, I've never heard it all, but have the AMM track on a cassette.) Apparently Steve Stapleton still has copies of the original vinyl, but without covers.

user_5103 · Post by **user_5103** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:36 am

http://www.discogs.com/release/472093" onclick= "window.open(this.href);return false; <- Was this one ever re-issued? I sometimes get confused with SME/John Stevens reissues.

skrobek · Post by **skrobek** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:57 am

I don't have those Takayanagi's Dan, calm down

However, something tells me You've got the Taku Sugimoto disc somewhere... Wanna trade

What's wrong with those Gayle discs ? Be more precise please:

1. you got them and dont like them as compared to other gayle records
2. you think they're not worth re-issueing because they wouldn't sell at all
3. you simply don't like Gayle ?

martin · Post by **martin** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:37 am

Son of Beroff wrote:http://www.discogs.com/release/472093 <- Was this one ever re-issued?

No, wasn't.

jon abbey · Post by **jon abbey** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:44 am

Skrobek wrote:oh yeah and :

Charles GAYLE 'Solo in Japan' (PSF)

Charles GAYLE 'Ancient of Days' (Knitting factory)

Lee Konitz - 'Solo in Japan' (PSF)

I don't think PSF stuff goes out of print, Forced Exposure lists both of those FWIW.