No Fripp show ever likely and I was just riffing (so to speak). I could no more put together a favourite 10 Guitar Albums list than I could give birth.Dan Warburton wrote:Wasn't intending to - the Fripp top ten was Alastair's admirably restrained idea.jon abbey wrote:I also have zero interest in Robert Fripp's entire career, please don't try to convince me otherwise on that, thanks.)
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lots of fire in this thread (exactly as I like it).
on Mota for the uninitiated:
Mota's playing on 'Sings' is very clean, unhurried and inventfull. It's the one to own for me, and it is the furthest away from Bailey (and closer to Sugimoto) as far as Mota's solo albums go.
BUT, I find Mota better with company. Dorsal and Our Faceless Empire with Rodrigues, Paiuk et.al, are awesome, twisting and turning in all directions, with lots of breathing space and time for each player. surprising and subtle at the same time. Top discs for what I call 21st century jazz (post free jazz?).
that's is surprising...
…because besides the whole onkyo scene (i will not touch that here), his solo stuff (of which some is totally sublime) is wholly unique and plural.
Someone played the Blue Note best 50yrs compilation once, and to this day I remember how spectacularly different/fresh and ahead was the Dolphy cut (I think Gazzelloni) out of 40+ tracks. And this is where Akiyama is for me (just check the compilation disc on Locust mentioned earlier in this thread). His playing is (has always been) about deconstructing fundamentals. Breaking things apart, elongating time, space, attack, melody but also re-synthesising. A master of altering perception. He is a constructor and a destructor at the same time. A traveller and a returner. But whatever he does, there is an underlying respect to the past and all that will be in the future. An essential part of a mysterious evolution path if you like. And he doesn't even need to put his guitar on a table to do so (though I understand he does use an electric drill once in a while
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'Relator' or 'Semi-Impressionism' (with Nakamura), ring across like surreal poetry. Words are easily identifiable and stated with confidence, it's just that they shouldn't be in that sequence. The music can be "out-there" but is never alien. And referring to the Kahn connection (I thought the Mota/Kahn was pretty poor myself), check the Akiyama/Kahn (Till we meet again). It will raise your hairs.
I could easily say that Akiyama is one of possibly 2/3 artists that have had the biggest impact on my music interest the last 10 yrs.
on Mota for the uninitiated:
Mota's playing on 'Sings' is very clean, unhurried and inventfull. It's the one to own for me, and it is the furthest away from Bailey (and closer to Sugimoto) as far as Mota's solo albums go.
BUT, I find Mota better with company. Dorsal and Our Faceless Empire with Rodrigues, Paiuk et.al, are awesome, twisting and turning in all directions, with lots of breathing space and time for each player. surprising and subtle at the same time. Top discs for what I call 21st century jazz (post free jazz?).
WOW! Mota v. Tetuzi ?!Dan Warburton wrote:... I take it you don't care much for turn of the century Sugimoto and Akiyama either, and don't have much time for Derek Bailey...
that's is surprising...
…because besides the whole onkyo scene (i will not touch that here), his solo stuff (of which some is totally sublime) is wholly unique and plural.
Someone played the Blue Note best 50yrs compilation once, and to this day I remember how spectacularly different/fresh and ahead was the Dolphy cut (I think Gazzelloni) out of 40+ tracks. And this is where Akiyama is for me (just check the compilation disc on Locust mentioned earlier in this thread). His playing is (has always been) about deconstructing fundamentals. Breaking things apart, elongating time, space, attack, melody but also re-synthesising. A master of altering perception. He is a constructor and a destructor at the same time. A traveller and a returner. But whatever he does, there is an underlying respect to the past and all that will be in the future. An essential part of a mysterious evolution path if you like. And he doesn't even need to put his guitar on a table to do so (though I understand he does use an electric drill once in a while
'Relator' or 'Semi-Impressionism' (with Nakamura), ring across like surreal poetry. Words are easily identifiable and stated with confidence, it's just that they shouldn't be in that sequence. The music can be "out-there" but is never alien. And referring to the Kahn connection (I thought the Mota/Kahn was pretty poor myself), check the Akiyama/Kahn (Till we meet again). It will raise your hairs.
I could easily say that Akiyama is one of possibly 2/3 artists that have had the biggest impact on my music interest the last 10 yrs.
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yep, the half of the Akiyama/Kahn that is actually duo is fantastic, that and Relator are what I was going for/hoping for on the Akiyama/Muller on Erst.
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yes, impossible - I can't get past Akira Rabelais' ...Benediction, Draw on number 1. Then I give up.Alastair wrote: No Fripp show ever likely and I was just riffing (so to speak). I could no more put together a favourite 10 Guitar Albums list than I could give birth.
but a top 10 fripp and no mention of baby's on fire?!?! not on.
...well, at least 'Sky Saw' is in - eno/fripp best track ever.
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-notes for manuel mota-
plays inside own time exploring the edge of self
calling and recalling makes the guitar moan
lets the past sinking in the sand
to mirror the future for the sake of art
something arising when the others falling
anything missing while the fountain filling
tries to catch them before the hands fooling
encounters new thoughts after logics abandoned
bringing the distance toward us away
walking the third path below and above
-tetuzi akiyama
plays inside own time exploring the edge of self
calling and recalling makes the guitar moan
lets the past sinking in the sand
to mirror the future for the sake of art
something arising when the others falling
anything missing while the fountain filling
tries to catch them before the hands fooling
encounters new thoughts after logics abandoned
bringing the distance toward us away
walking the third path below and above
-tetuzi akiyama
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^^^ supercool
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Yes, these are Tetuzi's liners for the forthcoming Mota box on Dromos.
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appreciate the response. i don't listen to much derek bailey nowadays, but i do identify with his approach. improvisation left a good impression. re: akiyama, haven't spent much time w/his material, but i like the ancient balance to control death, the tonality of it. i imagine it's not rated highly on IHM. as i understand, motubachii is largely a deliberately-assembled, cut and paste job. are there substantial stretches of un-edited activity on it?Dan Warburton wrote:Funny, I'd say the 4g set you picked as your favourite Erstwhile is slight and meandery, myself. And motubachii is wonderfully fumblesome, as you put it. I take it you don't care much for turn of the century Sugimoto and Akiyama either, and don't have much time for Derek Bailey. But that's all right. A chacun ses gouts.. For myself, I've probably had more joy from Mota's playing than any other guitarist I've ever heard, with the possible exception of Robert Fripp.mono tony wrote:listening to a few (electric) mp3s of this and finding it sort of slight, fumble-some, and meander-y. what good do you hear in these recordings?Dan Warburton wrote:Manuel Mota, Outubro, 2006
one reference point could be loren connors' collected airs 92-02, which is obviously more tonally-directed, sensuous-sounding music. i know the two (mota, connors) don't really compare, but the music on outubro reminded me of the "daggett years," 4CD box of unaccompanied acoustic guitar improvisations (79-80), or the idea of that crude, "pure" music being packaged and marketed. those old connors recordings are pretty ugly, and dramatic in comparison.
