Now Playing: The Next Generation

Post by **grisha** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:44 am

Efdemin - Knocking At The Grand

Yii · Post by **Yii** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:31 am

tiny little bells ringing'

Post by **grisha** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:45 am

user_4541 · Post by **user_4541** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:26 pm

I've been getting back into a little band called Earth. I particularly like the album Hex, and right now I'm listening to Pentastar which was when they were a full band. I also picked up an Earth remix album (!) yesterday, though unaware of what it was, I found out later it was a remix album.

Hex is amazing tho, the packaging is awesome, as well as the theme. The songs are really inventive, and intuitive, with the best of Earth's signature production. It's also heavy, but in an atypical way, and it draws on raw emotion. highly recommended.

james · Post by **james** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:37 pm

Hex is gorgeous...and if you like that, you'll love the new album Hibernaculum.

listening to the new Alasehir disc from Archive.

Stevo · Post by **Stevo** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:29 am

gargoylepiss wrote:I've been getting back into a little band called Earth. I particularly like the album Hex, and right now I'm listening to Pentastar which was when they were a full band.

Surprised at that. Thought they were a two piece up to the time of Hex. Didn't they just add a female drummer?
I used to play Earth 2 on my radio show in the early days. Wonder what that was like to listen to over the air?
Stevo
Np MOby Grape live 66

tadk · Post by **tadk** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:49 am

"The First Original Silence"
(it's much better than I thought it would be)

user_599 · Post by **user_599** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:30 pm

The Necks - Drive By

Just getting into these guys - Groovy!

user_548 · Post by **user_548** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:40 pm

Minimality wrote:The Necks - Drive By

Just getting into these guys - Groovy!

I personally like the live stuff best with Chris Abrahams amazing wall of sound piano

user_548 · Post by **user_548** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:47 pm

Harvey- Anthem.

user_599 · Post by **user_599** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:09 am

angrymice wrote:

Harvey- Anthem.

How do you like this?

I think I was somewhat disappointed, but I need to pull it out again.

user_599 · Post by **user_599** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:09 am

angrymice wrote:
Minimality wrote:The Necks - Drive By

Just getting into these guys - Groovy!
I personally like the live stuff best with Chris Abrahams amazing wall of sound piano

I'll check it out.

user_548 · Post by **user_548** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:24 am

Minimality wrote:How do you like this?

I think I was somewhat disappointed, but I need to pull it out again.

It definitely isn't the most stunningly shot live video and the sound isn't amazing either, but I like it nonetheless. Obviously I can't sit and watch the whole thing from start to finish but as it stands I'm glad I got it and it's nice to sort of have as a background

user_1697 · Post by **user_1697** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:07 am

Pip wrote:
Tapir wrote:Anyways, have been using this (successfully) as an antidote to an overdose of Audition radio (got an mp3 player for Christmas and had some catching up to do). Against some gorgeous tracks, there?s maybe just too much unflappable music on Audition. The gnawing on stones, the licking of tam tams, the smooth swallowing of mouthpieces, the tickling up of tender tinnituses in the cutest of tiny digital fizzes. Feels so rarefied. Even Basque laptoppers play half their shows with pinkies held at ornate angles, seems like. It also feels mighty safe.
Well, as I've found out over the last few days, reviewing ther last series, audition works best in one-hour chunks as broadcast. 'tis folly to try and listen to lots of shows back-to-back.

Which is fine. It's not supposed to be a work in 47 parts. Safe? Maybe. How would you make it more edgy, or whatever the opposite of "safe" is?

Which were the "gorgeous" tracks, Tapir?

It's interesting to get feedback like this, my questions are genuine, not antagonistic.

So here's the set-up: traveling/commuting a lot for the last 6 weeks with nothing on that mp3 player but c. 35 audition shows and c. 35 mixes of African music from World Passport (highly!! recommended). So not really back to back, but one audition show every other day for six weeks, not bad, ey? I find I try to model my conversation after the playful banter on your show now

So, after a couple of weeks, one does have a feeling there's a core aesthetic. It would go something like this:

I press play. Nothing happens. I know that's what it often is like so I chuckle. Still nothing happens. I discreetly check the volume, seems ok. I check the headphone connection, wait, did I touch the clink or was there some kind of rustle? I freeze, the rustle repeats, I knowingly smile and sink back in my seat. So what's happening? Sounds like someone has told a sheet of paper he'd like to scrunch it up into a ball, and it's kind of like anticipating that fate. Then, suddenly, a scratching on a felt-like surface on top, very distinct. Guess you could buy a car for the money it costs to get your fingers manicured so they can make these surfaces resonate so splendidly. Before I have time to settle, there's a thin whine, from a laptop that doesn't dare exhale for fear of disturbing the proceedings, but needs some cooling and wants to be part of the game anyway.

Then, after the superhuman efforts needed to reach that kind of interplay, a few measures breathing space of uneasy silence.

This core aesthetic meanwhile bores me to death. But that may have to do with the ten minutes slots, where there's no chance to settle into the thing, but gesture becomes what's important... Don't want to name the (to me) core offending players without having heard a proper release...

I tend to enjoy all the fringes. Stuff based on field recordings, the classical selections, turn-of-the-century eai (especially the last). Otoh, Traw eg., whom I'd file under the old core aesthetic, hit my sweet spot somehow. Jason Kahn often does, too.

On the other other hand, to get the grit and the completely personal sound, as you do on Between, does seem to me something that isn't essential to your core aesthetic, but I've realized it is to mine. If you don't like Coleman Hawkins (hardly imaginable, the guy played cathedrals in every solo from 34 to 49), maybe we can settle for Keith Rowe as the new Ben Webster?

Yii · Post by **Yii** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:11 am

Richard Pinnell · Post by **Richard Pinnell** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:04 am

Tapir wrote:one audition show every other day for six weeks, not bad, ey? I find I try to model my conversation after the playful banter on your show now

Oh boy thats a scary thought!

Tapir wrote:This core aesthetic meanwhile bores me to death. But that may have to do with the ten minutes slots, where there's no chance to settle into the thing, but gesture becomes what's important... Don't want to name the (to me) core offending players without having heard a proper release...

Interesting that you can find a core aesthetic. When we started out we set ourselves ground rules about what we could or couldn't play, which we have strayed from here and there and gradually got more relaxed about. Al's musical taste and mine can be simply thought of as a big Venn diagram, we each have very different interests that cross over here in the middle. Perhaps what you are hearing is that middle ground. Interesting though.

Tapir wrote:I tend to enjoy all the fringes. Stuff based on field recordings, the classical selections, turn-of-the-century eai (especially the last). Otoh, Traw eg., whom I'd file under the old core aesthetic, hit my sweet spot somehow. Jason Kahn often does, too.

Hmm yeah, the fringes may well be the more individual choices we make, and you seem to like material that each of us choose.

Thanks for listening anyway, you must be mad to listen to that much,. I'd be interested to now if the programme ever encourages you (or anyone here I guess) to go and buy something we played a sample from.

Al and I will get together soon to discuss what we are going to do with the third series. We'd like to mix it up a bit, but not sure how as yet, and there's an awful lot going on at Resonance right now, so time will tell.

user_1697 · Post by **user_1697** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:14 am

Richard Pinnell wrote:Thanks for listening anyway, you must be mad to listen to that much,. I'd be interested to now if the programme ever encourages you (or anyone here I guess) to go and buy something we played a sample from.

Al and I will get together soon to discuss what we are going to do with the third series. We'd like to mix it up a bit, but not sure how as yet, and there's an awful lot going on at Resonance right now, so time will tell.

I ain't mad, you should experience how that classic highlife hits you after patiently sitting thru an endless hour of Audition

About buying stuff, frankly, erm, no, but. It's really that 10 minute slot thing. My first eai record was Duos for Doris, and I bought it for the talk about it; I had listened to the excerpts on the label's website and on the Wire radio show, and it had done nothing for me, except that I'd felt somehow the story wasn't over yet. It's funny, I probably buy more great records despite sound samples than because of them (aside: I don't suppose anyone's familiar with my luckily scant ramblings here, but if it takes just 10 seconds to hear something's crap, then so it is (in my special figment of the universe). The eai samples mostly leave things just unresolved).

Funnier: I've bought more records because of the Wire radio show than yours for the simple fact that it's laughably lossy, but my ears interpret that as atmosphere and only hints of the real thing. Last instance: I was blown away by a track from the Akyiama/M?ller Erst when relistening on the Wire show and completely disappointed by the cleaned-up reality after buying.

If I had money (unfortunately right now it's a choice of buy or do, and the latter wins), there's about half a dozen tracks I'd absolutely need that I first heard from you. I will get these records someway along the path. It's more resonance for the artists in any way. But mix it up more for the show. There's really no sense in feeling like a continuum when in fact difference is what makes us wobble.

SethTisue · Post by **SethTisue** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:38 am

vegetable mind · Post by **vegetable mind** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:33 pm

Matthew Dear - Asa Breed(leak)

sexxxy

Stevo · Post by **Stevo** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:23 am

Tinariwen a live set from SWitzerland or somewhere that I got from Dime. LOving thios, haven't really heard them before but this makes me want to explore further. Very blues related material from a bunch of Arabs from NOrth Mali. Guess its got the same relationship to the blues as Ali Farka Toure's stuff did? Very resonant.

Before that I had a live set by the Flying Burrito Bros on. Got that from Bootcity and somebody mention there that it appears to be running slow which I'd concur with. pretty great anyway