list your free jazz favorites

[beefbeefmeat]

rather than junk up the now playing list i figured i would just start a new thread for expanding my horizons:

i just checked out that red trio & nate wooley stem recording. i really enjoyed it... i know next to nothing about jazz and would love to hear some similiar stuff.

to me Nate Wooley (and to a certain extend the whole of the clean feed aesthetic) owes a lot to the style and spaciousness(!) of Bill Dixon, so I would definitely recommend checking Vade Mecum 1 & 2

[joeperucki]

Not surprised no response here. I think the issue is there are many topics on the subject and it's been years since it's been discussed.
Definitely check out the old threads. Here is one: http://ihatemusic.noquam.com/viewtopic. ... =free+jazz

[Jesse]

beef,
here's a forum much better suited to address your inquiry: http://freejazz.org/

i spent many years amassing and enjoying the free jazz, if you want to move to a pm, i will suggest some stuff.

jg

[Wombatz]

Oh but why not.

Definitely Bill Dixon, the Soul Note/Black Saint box is incredible value.

Three others I still play:

Fire Music by Archie Shepp (that's like a Duke Ellington shred). Tons of Pharoah Sanders, but for starters Black Unity (that's like an In A Silent Way shred). Machine Gun by Peter Brötzmann for the title track which has a killer garage rock shred passage.

All of that is pretty composed music btw.

[jon abbey]

Noah Howard-The Black Ark

[mudd]

one too many salty swift and not goodbye (cecil taylor).

john coltrane live in japan.

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[Antoine]

A few fav that comes to mind (not sure they all can be classified under free jazz, but whatever, those are great recs)

Albert Ayler - Live in Greenwich Village
Albert Ayler - Spiritual Unity
Don Cherry - Eternal Rhythm
John Coltrane - Live in Japan 66
John Coltrane - The Olatunji Concert
Pharoah Sanders - Jewels of Thought
Pharoah Sanders - Karma
Sun Ra - What Planet Is This?

[bedouin]

Art Ensemble Of Chicago - Tutankhamun / Spiritual
Anthony Braxton, Max Roach - One in Two, Two in One
Kahil El'Zabar, Lester Bowie, Malachi Favors - The Ritual / Sacred Love
Jean-Luc Guionnet, Eric Brochard, Edward Perraud - [On]
Evan Parker / Zlatko Kaučič - Round About One O'clock
Halvorson, Radding, Wooley - Crackleknob
Masahiko Togashi Quartet - We now create
Michel Doneda, Jack Wright, Tatsua Nakatani - From Between
Ornette Coleman - This Is Our Music
Derek Bailey & Shoji Hano - Fish

[beefbeefmeat]

thanks for the link to the other thread, as well as the lists that have posted!

[beefbeefmeat]

Noah Howard-The Black Ark

this is actually one of the few albums other than bailey that i own

[faster]

Marion Brown - Afternoon of a Georgia Fawn

Art Ensemble of Chicago - There's a Jackson in Your House

Sun Ra - (very many, but maybe my favorites) Nubians of Plutonia, Angels and Demons at Play, Strange Strings

Bill Dixon - Son of Sisyphus, both In Italy volumes, both Vade Mecum volumes

[walt]

Art Ensemble of Chicago-People in Sorrow
Ornette Coleman-Crisis
Jimmy Giuffre 3-1961
Jimmy Giuffre-Paul Bley-Steve Swallow-Emphasis/Flight 1961
Jeanne Lee/Ran Blake-The Newest Sound Around
Archie Shepp-Live(Life) at Donauschingan 1967
Marion Brown-Why Not
John Carter-Bobby Bradford Quartet-(the two sessions on Flying Dutchman will be released on cd,perhaps later this year,on the same label that put out Bill Dixon-Intents and Purposes and Julius Hemphill-Dogon AD)

[Charon]

Coltrane - Interstellar Space (If you haven't heard this, you must)
Archie Shepp - The Magic of Ju-Ju
Cecil Taylor - Air Above Mountains (Buildings Within)
Cecil Taylor European Orchestra - Alms/Tiergarten (Spree)
Milford Graves & John Zorn - the 50th Birthday Celebration disc
Otomo Yoshihide's New Jazz Orchestra - Out to Lunch
Ornette Coleman - Ornette on Tenor
Ornette Coleman - Live at the Golden Circle (both volumes)
Pharoah Sanders, Adam Rudolph and Hamid Drake - Spirits

so many more

[Tanner]

I'm not sure if you jut want recommendations or simply our favorites, but what the hey...

Check out Henry Threadgill and specifically his amazing trio with Steve McCall and Fred Hopkins, Air (although quite a bit of composition is in there, but they blow most trios in that ilk out of the water).

I still dig a lot of Joe McPhee.... Nation Time and Tenor stick out to me now, but he's got loads more albums, which I like more often than not. I dig ballads once and a while, and unlike brotzmann you actually want to hear McPhee play them.

I still really enjoy some Frank Wright stuff, check out The Center of the World quartet ( I think their Unity album is pretty easy to find on ESP). "Your Prayer" is pretty killer id-up-your-ass playing, as well . The album he released with the Blue Notes is actually pretty entertaining, but don't think about it too much. I guess you could level that criticism on a lot of the genre. Fucking dada-lite poetry and action painting ruined a lot of this stuff by trying too hard to make it smart. Fuck smart sometimes. I digress.

What else? I really enjoy Lowell Davidson's stuff ( the little that's out there). Poignant, bruised -knuckles piano -- unsung but really lovely. His ESP stuff is great.

I enjoy weirdos like Jemeel Moondoc, Arthur Doyle, Marzette Watts, and Giuseppi Logan a lot, as well, but I hesitate to outright recommend any of them. But they are all idiosyncratic, often daring, often blundering sax men, that I still invite into my apartment after they fall drunk on my doorstep.

[jon abbey]

my favorite Ayler release was Albert Smiles With Sunny, recorded on the same day and with the same trio as Spiritual Unity, the full show that Prophecy comes from:

http://www.discogs.com/Albert-Ayler-Sun ... se/1028688

also Stefan Jaworzyn/Alan Wilkinson-In A Sentimental Mood seems to get overlooked a lot:

http://www.discogs.com/Stefan-Jaworzyn- ... se/2268896

[jon abbey]

and if Patty Waters-Sings counts, that too.

[Charon]

...and unlike brotzmann you actually want to hear McPhee play them.

Are you kidding? Brötzmann's amazing on ballads!



Also, since Alan Wilkinson came up:

Eddie Prévost & Alan Wilkinson - So Are We, So Are We

[beefbeefmeat]

I'm not sure if you jut want recommendations or simply our favorites, but what the hey... .

i guess a little of both... i am trying to branch off and find some new stuff/styles that i am not familiar with. i do enjoy space (i suppose developed from listening to a lot of eai) but i don't want to be limited to that.

i have been checking out some stuff from the other thread mentioned and i really like

frank lowe - black beings
eddie prevost & alan wilkinson - so are we, so are we
masahiko togashi quartet - we now create
die like a dog quartet - aoyama crows

machine gun session was too overwhelming for me haha

[Dan Warburton]

Jean-Luc Guionnet, Eric Brochard, Edward Perraud - [On]
Michel Doneda, Jack Wright, Tatsua Nakatani - From Between

Great, "but is it jazz"?

[Gerardo A]

A few records I don't think have been mentioned (some freer or jazzier than the others):

Anthony Braxton – Dortmund (Quartet)
Don Cherry – Complete Communion, Symphony For Improvisers
Sun Ra - Featuring Pharoah Sanders and Black Harold, Cosmic Tones for Mental Therapy
Ornette Coleman – Dancing in Your Head, At the Golden Circle, Chappaqua Suite
Mike Osborne, Harry Miller & Louis Moholo – All Night Long
David S. Ware – Godspelized
Schlipenbach Trio - Pakistani Pomade
Evan Parker, Barry Guy, Paul Lytton - At the Vortex
Roscoe Mitchell - Sound, Congliptious, Nonaah, Snurdy McGurdy and Her Dancin' Shoes
Muhal Richard Abrams - Levels and Degrees of Light
Kalaparusha Maurice McIntyre - Humility in the Light of the Creator
Sonny Sharrock - Ask the Ages, Monkey-Pockie-Boo
Last Exit - Noise of Trouble, Köln
Air - Air Lore
Ganelin Trio - Concerto Grosso, Ancora da Capo
Horace Tapscott - The Dark Tree
Hal Russell - NRG Ensemble
Frank Wright - Your Prayer, Trio

And these aren't free jazz per se, but open-structure jazz with some free or freeish soloists, which you'll probably like if you haven't heard them:

Louis Moholo – Spirits Rejoice!
Dave Holland – Conference of the Birds
The Trio (John Surman, Barre Philips & Stu Martin) - The Trio
Krzysztof Komeda - Astigmatic
Julius Hemphill - Dogon A.D.
Gerry Hemingway - Marmalade King, Demon Chaser