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on the origins of "minimalism" applied to music: Barbara Rose gave a nod to Young's Dream Music (which she calls 'minimal') in her 1965 essay "ABC Art" (an essay mostly about the visual arts): http://dc237.4shared.com/doc/bxpodcmw/preview.html --- there's a bit of a discussion on the origins of the ...

So I’ve kind of worked backwards to the beginning of my summary of your position above: your desire to become an activist, but in the arena of experimental music rather than in a more explicitly political campaign. On this I agree with Schik and Negative Potential: WHY? also, I got a private messag...

what bandwagon are you on?

an ideological one. I do make music too, though.

That's because it is. Sorry to sound so dismissive. It's OK. This is the general answer to "can Jason Lescalleet change the world" that I seem to be receiving in this thread (answer: "no, not really at all, and we're tired of this question") but with an apology added! I'm familiar with your respons...

ah, I see. You may be right about that... it occurs to me all the time. My roommate is a hardcore occupy-type activist and when he rattles off statistics about whatever, civilians dying in gaza, I feel like my artsy form of engagement is total bullshit. But, I've been involved with this experimental...

well, for one, Marx is not my hero. I've had to read some of his most famous writings in some 101 classes and a frankfurt school class, but other than that i'm not well versed enough to put a critique on the table. I wish I could write something a little more compelling than "fine." but I haven't re...

I think the crux here is acknowledging that people's ears are just more open today than they were at some other point in history. they'll probably be even more open at some point in the future. most "pop" music currently incorporates musical techniques that were truly "experimental" by the standard...

Instead, the contemporary avant-garde audience listens to music for the same reason that Hip-Hop or Pop fans listen to music: because they dig the sounds. You can then debate the merits of injecting political content into the aesthetic realm, but ultimately, I think the effect is about the same as ...

although a little bit of a detour, some of Hayao's questions for jliat have popped into my head whenever i've come across his work. I find the argument for noise/signal without data that you (jliat) present here compelling, and it's compelling in the writings on your site, but realistically does som...

^ thanks so much. some things to think about. enjoy your night.

It seems you might see something fundamental about "music", 60s/70s/80s discourses aside, that makes it uniquely problematic. the answer to this seems kinda obvious, so forgive me if the following sounds to simplistic. music is sound developing over time. it might included narrative (like lyrics, b...

At a tangent, and a reason I haven’t posted here before, (and perhaps my last!) is that any "radicalism" seems inhibited by 'music'. That is musicians as artists seem wedded (in a hierarchical inferiority) to "music". That is whatever they think – 'music' will be the result in the last instance. Th...

re the above few posts (before my morning caffeine): there's a link to richard's review a 40 posts back (not that anyone said much about it). To reiterate, I think that richard's unfavorable attitude toward the overt political content is an attitude that everyone in this discussion would probably sh...

re jon: I'll probably attend one of the two nights at Issue. I was desperate to go to the festival at the stone back last october (but couldn't) and have been looking forward to a similar opportunity. i've attended a lot of "new york" stuff since getting interested in experimental music a few years ...

define "change the world" to get more of an answer than just vague intuition sort of hard to do, isn't it? I definitely don't mean end poverty in europe or stop the drone war in pakistan (although... if Obama listened to EAI...). But I do think it would be reasonable to say that listening to someth...

‪http://www.thewatchfulear.com/?p=8237‬ I know that he's not exactly giving me a back rub, but I sincerely do appreciate that he took the time to clearly express his view. Even if he was going to write the same review regardless of this thread. This is great. Personally I think the addition of the ...

yeah, but, as an academic, when interviewing potential subjects (and this is how you began the thread) you need to be mindful of how you pose your questions. you can be critical of whoever - and it may be warranted - but in this case the language in which you've posed your questions is doing little...

i don't think you're doing yourself a favor here, and, also, when you criticize 'experimental musicians' for being 'bourgeoisie' or 'politically complacent' you should realize that, on this board, you'll often find yourself speaking to 1) friends of those musicians; 2) people who have released thei...

idk man! I promise I've been looking at this forum every few weeks for the past year and haven't really found anything relevant. I remember some potentially interesting threads (by that weird group 'gegensichkollektiv' or something), but the ideas in those threads were always stepped on before an in...

I don't think today's (art) philosophy & (art) criticism, etc. matters that much anymore. It has become too much about 2 inches of ivory, while the rich are getting richer and 1 in 7 people on the planet is dying of starvation. I'm not saying present day (art) philosophy and (art) criticism have ab...