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by normalioifyp
Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:46 pm
Forum: I Hate Music
Topic: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music
Replies: 225
Views: 71914

Re: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music

right so why get rid of labels then? if everything is so flat labels can exist for those who want them and be ignored by those who don't. you'd be better off abolishing qualitative listening altogether. just give up listening to and releasing records and just make music with your buddies (or yourse...
by normalioifyp
Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:35 am
Forum: I Hate Music
Topic: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music
Replies: 225
Views: 71914

Re: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music

[ things like "having a reason" and "great album" are phrases that only make sense within the the record label model of production. everyone self releasing doesn't get rid of labels, it creates a saturated culture made up of millions of tiny labels where "great albums" have no impact anymore. when ...
by normalioifyp
Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:19 pm
Forum: I Hate Music
Topic: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music
Replies: 225
Views: 71914

Re: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music

As someone who's first encounters with obscure music was through napster, and as a teacher to a lot of digitally native youngsters, I can confirm what's been said here. Label loyalty is not very important to most people my age and younger, and finding music through a label is increasingly rare. But ...
by normalioifyp
Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:48 pm
Forum: I Hate Music
Topic: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music
Replies: 225
Views: 71914

Re: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music

Book publishers and book stores, like record labels, are obsolete, and will no doubt die off. I say that's a great thing too, because when the book publishers die, it will leave a void where book writers can innovate with new business models. Yes! And as soon as we finish off the rainforests, there...
by normalioifyp
Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:28 pm
Forum: I Hate Music
Topic: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music
Replies: 225
Views: 71914

Re: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music

People take it more seriously now, since we are still stuck in the old mindset of having labels curate stuff for us, but as they become less important, people won't dismiss an album just because it's self released. the promotion point is sticky. it's not about whether people "dismiss" self-releases...
by normalioifyp
Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:42 pm
Forum: I Hate Music
Topic: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music
Replies: 225
Views: 71914

Re: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music

I guess it comes down to if you think labels add value or not. to me, the best labels most certainly do. I guess I don't get what your big issue is with them and why you are so keen to see them disappear. do you feel the same about record stores? book stores? publishing companies for books? I perso...
by normalioifyp
Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:22 pm
Forum: I Hate Music
Topic: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music
Replies: 225
Views: 71914

Re: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music

having a record on Mego or Erstwhile or Kranky or wherever immediately brings the attention of a new audience, some of whom may have been familiar with a musician's work before, but many of whom aren't. Simon's release of the Anett Nemeth disc earlier this year is a perfect example, if she'd self-r...
by normalioifyp
Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:12 pm
Forum: I Hate Music
Topic: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music
Replies: 225
Views: 71914

Re: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music

you admittedly didn't read the thread, so stop characterizing what other people have said in it. it's one thing to waltz in and make blanket prononcements, but if you are going to continue and attempt to engage in a dialogue, read the thread and answer what people have already said (via quote), not...
by normalioifyp
Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:42 pm
Forum: I Hate Music
Topic: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music
Replies: 225
Views: 71914

Re: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music

also the DIY model only accounts for local or by-mail collaboration. bringing musicians together takes resources, and the major contributor of those resources has always been the labels. say what you will about recording and music technology, we're still a long way from putting too people in the sa...
by normalioifyp
Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:56 pm
Forum: I Hate Music
Topic: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music
Replies: 225
Views: 71914

Re: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music

it's really not nostalgia, and no one's talking about reversing anything. and I'm obviously not talking about major labels, who I agree bring virtually nothing to the table in terms of new music at this point. So then what are you complaining about? Small labels like yours don't care about money, s...
by normalioifyp
Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:43 pm
Forum: I Hate Music
Topic: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music
Replies: 225
Views: 71914

Re: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music

I can't even begin to fathom how much less interesting I'd personally find music over the past 50 years if labels didn't exist. I loved labels way before I ever started one myself, it's the very rare great musician who is as good at making records as they are at making music. My point, however, is ...
by normalioifyp
Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:18 pm
Forum: I Hate Music
Topic: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music
Replies: 225
Views: 71914

Re: the ethics of file-sharing in experimental music

I wish I had time to read this whole thread, but ADHD prevents me from reading past page 3. So forgive me if I'm repeating what's already been said. Illegal downloading is awesome, precisely because it causes labels to lose money. Whoever said illegal downloading is an "outgrowth of baroque capitali...
by normalioifyp
Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:15 pm
Forum: I Hate Making Music
Topic: CONTEST: Write a peice under 5 seconds long.
Replies: 1
Views: 3998

Re: CONTEST: Write a peice under 5 seconds long.

Looks like some of you entered! Thanks :-)
Now listen to all the entries and vote for your favorite:
http://www.neverheardof.me/2012/01/-step-1-listen.html
by normalioifyp
Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:46 pm
Forum: I Hate Music
Topic: I hate motorik
Replies: 4
Views: 2528

Re: I hate motorik

Old Motorik: Negativland by NEU: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23HfAHSKWlk Autobahn by Kraftwerk (Motorik Starts @ 16:50) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-G28iyPtz0 New Motorik: Heart by Boredoms (Newer Motorik) http://youtu.be/pk4daEiXlE8 Personally, I find most newer motorik to be derivative of o...
by normalioifyp
Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:20 pm
Forum: I Hate Making Music
Topic: Where to start?
Replies: 23
Views: 66455

Re: Where to start?

I started recording music in 2003 when someone sold me a bootleg copy of "techno ejay" and I spent a whole winter figuring out how to break it so I could make non-techno music. Truth is, you can start recording with whatever you have. I have a collection of nice microphones, but I know people who ma...
by normalioifyp
Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:58 am
Forum: I Hate Music
Topic: Do you use a radio as an instrument? Q&A inside
Replies: 5
Views: 4479

Re: Do you use a radio as an instrument? Q&A inside

1) Do you use a radio as an instrument? Hell yes. 2) What kind of radio is it (model, type, etc)? I use an old Conion tape deck / radio boom box. The tape deck don't work though. A friend of mine uses this other radio. It's yellow and it says "sport." 3) How do you amplify it? It's a boombox mang. ...
by normalioifyp
Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:12 am
Forum: I Hate Music
Topic: You Tube
Replies: 825
Views: 522969

Re: You Tube

IN SOVIET RUSSIA, TUBE YOU. Punsuca Live (Not enough noise people dance. Y'all could learn something from this.) http://youtu.be/lXZljrKlcxI Complete - Hoogie Boogie Land (Can't tell if intentionally awesome, or just a side effect of meth) http://youtu.be/ukjnrXTTvPY Some throat singing from Siberia...
by normalioifyp
Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:03 am
Forum: I Hate Making Music
Topic: CONTEST: Write a peice under 5 seconds long.
Replies: 1
Views: 3998

CONTEST: Write a peice under 5 seconds long.

My blog is running a songwriting contest for everyone who's ever wanted to enter a music competition, but didn't have the time or patience. According to the rules, every entry must be under 5 seconds long. * Note to classical music dorks - By song, I don't mean it has to include singing. I am using ...
by normalioifyp
Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:14 pm
Forum: I Hate Music
Topic: pure improvisation
Replies: 270
Views: 63846

Re: pure improvisation

leroysghost wrote:
normalioifyp wrote:pissing contest.
and you showed up almost two years late to the match, so what does tha make you? All the academic assholes are gonna think yr a pussy now.
I like the cut of your jib, sir.
by normalioifyp
Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:57 pm
Forum: I Hate Music
Topic: Why Do You Listen To Noise? (I'm writing an opinion article)
Replies: 28
Views: 9770

Re: Why Do You Listen To Noise? (I'm writing an opinion arti

At this point I am looking for scientific/psyiological effects of sounds, especially sustained ones, as they relate to music or noise, but especially noise. If anyone has anything to share on that I would appreciate it. If you're going the scientific route, then you must clearly define what you mea...